BILL GOODMAN,  305 DONEGAL DRIVE,  BOZEMAN,  MONTANA  59715

                         TEL. (406) 587-3131        FAX (406) 219-3415

      Bill Goodman has been a collector of antique/collector firearms for well over 40 years and a full time dealer for over 28 years.  Traveling around the country constantly seeking good quality collector arms at REALISTIC PRICES, Bill sells exclusively by mail order.  He has advertised in every issue of The Gun List  (now Gun Digest the Magazine) since it's first small issues in the early 1980s (as well as The Shotgun News before that). All items are photographed. To view them just click the text of the item you want to see. Be sure to scroll down as most items have more than one photo.  All guns are sold as collector's items, not shooters.  If you wish to shoot an item listed here, it is strongly recommended that you have the item checked out by a competent gunsmith who specializes in antique firearms. All items are sold with the usual three (3) day inspection.  If for any reason you are not satisfied with your purchase, call to say you are returning the item and you will receive an immediate refund when the item is received back in the same condition it was originally shipped. This list will be constantly updated as new items become available.  Use the above phone number to call to check availability and for further info on any item you wish to purchase. Prices do not include shipping. All federal/state laws concerning the transfer of firearms are strictly followed.  Modern firearms must be shipped to an FFL dealer (or "Curio & Relics" license holders where applicable).  Pre-1899 antiques may be shipped to non-FFL holders. All Layaway sales are final.      

 

 

MORE GUNS WERE POSTED 12/16/14. WATCH FOR FREQUENT POSTINGS THROUGH  DECEMBER.

 

 

NOTES FROM THE FIELD (10/16/14): THIS UNCERTAIN ECONOMY!  Seems like an appropriate topic, especially since I haven't written a "Notes From the Field" in a while.  So, we are told the unemployment rate has broken under 6% and that things are steadily, slowly but steadily, getting better.  Until this past week, Washington had been pointing to the stock market as an example of how America is improving.  Well, I suppose if you'd put everything you could into the stock market over the past couple years you'd be doing extremely well.  However, you'd be owning "paper" assets propped up by government funds.  This stock market hasn't had a normal 10% correction in almost three (3) years!  Think of it this way, under the best of the Bush years, I saw unemployment at an honest 4.4% and there didn't seem to be a care in the world- remember, this was before the stock market and housing crashes.  Well, since that time the NASDAQ has DOUBLED in value... I'm not talking doubled since the crash, I'm talking about before everything fell away!  Yet,  there are still complaints of  weak U.S. and world economies... so how can the stock market be so high?  I'm not an economist, but I don't think it takes one to realize something artificial is holding prices high.  Leaving it at that, what does this have to do with antique/collector firearms?  In a nutshell, after being involved in this field professionally for 30 years and observing the collector market far longer, I can say there is nothing artificial or phony about collector firearm valuations!  Good, original collector firearms priced according to their rarity, condition, historical association etc. have and continue to be excellent investments without any real down side.  When the stock market sank before the 2008 election, I was worried people wouldn't have money to buy antique/collector guns.  Well, that fear was unfounded.  My phone started ringing and didn't stop. I heard over and over from collectors who were frightened of the volatility of their "paper assets" and wanted to additionally  invest in "tangible" assets like antique guns.  A good while back I helped a man get an investment collection together.  He wanted them for his children and/or grand children.  He held them for six to ten years and called me one day to say he had the opportunity to develop some land and needed to raise money. The guns would have to go.  In the end, he told me the prices he wanted for the guns I sold him previously- he quoted a higher price on every item- and told me anything over his price I could keep.  It didn't take long to liquidate his collection and we both made out well.  I can't give a better example than that. My point is to be careful, diversify investments and know that a world full of the kind of uncertainty we are now experiencing can wreak havoc on investment portfolios!  Thanks for reading- Bill Goodman (note: there are a couple older "Notes From the Field" at the bottom of this website)

 

 

 

COLT FIRE ARMS (click text for photo

  1. BLACK POWDER SINGLE ACTION ARMY .45 COLT, 4 ¾” #108XXX, MADE 1884,  this one come right out of here in Montana, overall it is a dark brown patina with traces of original nickel in the usual protected areas- around front sight and barrel top, butt, bottom and sides of trigger guard, top of hammer, back of cylinder etc., good markings including the correct two line barrel address, patent dates on frame getting worn, matching numbers, nice screws, needs ejector and housing, grips are an obvious later replacement but fit nicely, fine mech. With a couple hammer notches either worn or broken- cocks okay, but should be re-cut, fine+ bore, a little work and the value of this one will increase significantly!  (four photos)  $1895.

  2. AN INCREDIBLE COLT SINGLE ACTION ARMY OFFERING!  A MINT CONDITION RARE NICKEL FINISH .32-20, 5 1/2" WITH FACTORY LETTER SHOWING SHIPMENT TO SIMMONS HARDWARE, ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI SEPTEMBER 6, 1906!  I got this revolver nearly five years ago along with a few other exceptional Single Actions all from the same estate.  It seems the original collector got into some legal trouble in the 1970s and gave his handgun collection to his attorney with instructions to sell the contents after his death.  I was told the guns had been placed in a vault in 1979 and stayed there for twenty years.  Along with this remarkable example were a couple of rare caliber Single Actions (one in .32 Colt that was shipped in the 1920s or 1930s to a police department).  Some had letters and some did not.  This one did not.  I remember spending a lot of time with a magnifying glass examining this particular Colt and the more I looked at it the more convinced I became of it's originality... which proved correct when I sent for a Colt factory letter and it lettered as it is with nickel finish.  According to Kopec's great book A Study of the Colt Single Action Army Revolver, during the 1900 to 1912 period nickel finish was rarely used on Single Actions except for special order.  In my opinion, this was because the transition had been made from black powder to smokeless powder.  Black powder fouling easily wipes off nickel finish where it adheres (even cakes) much more to blue & case color metal.  Condition of this piece is amazing.  It retains about all the nickel that has turned a pleasing "cloudy" or dull hue, there is a very slight cylinder drag line that doesn't go through the nickel, all markings sharp and clear including the verified proof stamping on the front left trigger guard bow, tiny number "3" inspector stamp in the rear side of the bow, serial numbers, etc., about perfect screws, all edges knife-sharp and all seams where the frame meets the trigger guard and grip strap perfect, straight and tight, correct for this period hammer with  perfect, unmarred cylinder pin and spring push screw release, bright bore and tight action, about perfect grips, in summation, a rare finish Single Action that looks as if it were bought new, placed in a dresser drawer and forgotten.  Keep in mind, judging by the other factory letters in this collection, many of the guns had very early style Colt dated letters from the very early 1960s when some of the guns were only 30-50 years old! (note: four photos ) $8950.``

  3. GREAT COLT FIND! 1871-72 OPEN TOP .44 RIM FIRE SINGLE ACTION, #3XXX WITH ORIGINAL UNCUT 7 1/2" BARREL, most of these went to Mexico and I believe this one is one as this revolver walked in to a California gun shop by a Spanish Speaking individual who said it was his grandfather's gun and he wanted to sell it!  This is a really nice uncleaned and unaltered example! Most have had their barrels cut etc. overall metal surfaces are an uncleaned deep brown patina with fine markings on barrel top (New York address) and patent dates on left side of frame, matching numbers on barrel, cylinder, trigger guard and frame, and best of all a fine cylinder scene! Grips show wear but are solid and show some shrinkage on sides- has a silver shield inletted in left grip with some small tacks around it, right side shows what looks like a spur has rolled on it a bit, brass trigger guard is an unpolished mellow mustard color, fine screws, tight action, front sight has been filed low, barrel shows some muzzle wear on left side from being in and out of a holster, ejector spring intact, but a little weak and needs the loading gate spring only, this one has a great look to- especially with the cylinder scene visible and uncut barrel! $5250.

  4. FINE CONDITION No. 2 DERRINGER, .41RF, ONLY 9000 MADE 1870-1890, a scarce early cartridge Colt that is rarely found with any finish remaining, this one much better than normally seen with fine aged blue mixing dull on the barrel, exc. markings and mech., uncleaned brown iron frame with nice simple factory engraving, exc. single screw, exc. checkered walnut grips, bore will clean about exc., #5XXX (Flayderman's Guide- last edition, now 7  years old- shows these in fine condition at $2000), my price $1495.

  5. NICE CONDITION No. 3 Derringer, .41 RF, MADE 1870-1912, this was Colt's most popular derringer with 48,000 being made yet good examples with original finish are hard to find as like most derringer/pocket pistols they were carried extensively and wore fast, this one is the more scarce full nickel and shows wear on the high edges of the frame sides with grip straps retaining all of the nickel, barrel also retains nearly all the nickel except for a thin wear line at the highest/sharpest edges and slightly at the muzzle, exc. screws and mech., exc. markings, nice walnut grips show good finish and only slight handling marks, good fire blue on the hammer back, exc. mech and the bore should scrub out fine or better, again, much better than normally seen, $795.

  6. COLT LIGHTNING RARITY! LIGHTWEIGHT BABY SADDLE RING CARBINE IN .38-40, MADE 1889, all correct in every way with extra lightweight barrel that is actually smaller at the muzzle than the magazine tube, weighs the correct 5 1/4 lbs (standard saddle ring carbines weigh about a pound more and have heavier barrels), this is an early example with correct carbine sights, saddle ring intact, tight locking action (often these don't lock up as they should), dust cover intact, uncleaned overall with aged and thinning blue mixing gray/brown on the barrel and magazine, mostly gray/brown receiver with aged blue in the more protected areas, exc. markings with fine rampant colt stamping on the left side of the receiver, exc. wood shows fairly sharp checkering on the forend and only normal light handling on the butt stock, fine+ bore with sharp rifling should clean out even better, totally uncleaned and unmessed with example of a very rare Lightning variation, $3450.``

  7. VERY HIGH CONDITION U.S. ARMY MODEL 1901 .38 COLT DOUBLE ACTION REVOLVER, MATCHING NUMBER 139XXX, one of the most beautifully fit and finished military revolvers ever issued to the army, this example is one of the best I've seen in years as it retains nearly all the original high polish blue with only light holster/edge wear and a little dulling of the blue on the back strap and scattered areas of light thinning from age, beautiful fire blue on the hammer back and trigger, exc. walnut grips with a trace of cartouche, tight mech and exc. inside, the front face of the cylinder retains about all the blue indicating this revolver was rarely if ever fired, RAC inspected cylinder (unusual double stamping), frame and barrel, Lanyard ring intact, one of the best, (note: white was put on the markings to highlight the lettering- easily removed with solvent) $1295.

  8. FINE CONDITION MODEL 1902 MILITARY AUTO PISTOL, .38 ACP CALIBER, SHIPPED TO STANDART BROTHERS HARDWARE, DETROIT, MICHIGAN, JANUARY 2, 1915, (this info found in the serial number listings of some of this model in the back of William Goddard's excellent book, The Government Models). fine bright blue on the receiver sides and bottom, grip straps aged to a plum brown with some gray mixing on the front strap, correct magazine marked "CAL 38" over "COLT" in correct high polish finish, fine blue on slide that is aging and mixing dull mostly on the left side with bright blue slightly thinning in protected areas and on top, right side thinning a little also, exc. markings, exc.+ grips, lanyard ring intact, bright sharp bore, tight action, classic long slide early Colt auto in nice condition, $1595.

  9. NEW FRONTIER SINGLE ACTION ARMY .45 COLT, 7 1/2", MADE 1979, relatively scarce target version of the classic Single Action Army revolver with adjustable sights, high polish blue finish with case color frame and walnut Colt medallion grips, near mint condition with a tiny amount of edge/holster wear, feels like this one has had a professional action job with light crisp trigger etc., $1295.

                            

 

MARLIN  (click text for photos)

1) 1881 LIGHT FRAME OCTAGON RIFLE IN .38-55 CALIBER WITH DESIRABLE 28" BARREL (MOST SEEM TO HAVE THE SHORTER 24" BARREL, MADE 1887, a really nice example with fine bright blue on the receiver sides that is mixing with a little plum- still plenty of even blue, fine deep barrel blue, mag tube mostly brown patina with blue on the top part under the barrel, still shows some fire blue on the edges of the sliding loading gate, exc. not cracked forend, fine butt stock that a previous owner put three large initials in the right side using very short and small head iron tacks- some of which have been removed- I think they could all be removed and gone over... I'd be inclined to leave it alone and let the owner of the initials have his immortality! tight wood to metal fit, original buckhorn rear sight, sporting tang sight of a kind I'm not familiar with but looks like it uses the original factory tang holes with Beach folding globe front sight, tight action, EXCELLENT SHARP BORE, $1950.

2) OUTSTANDING RARE 1888 OCTAGON RIFLE IN DESIRABLE 44-40 CALIBER, MADE 1888, This model was only made from 1888-1889 with only 4,814 made and of these only 1,727 were made in .44-40 caliber.  Most of these .44s went to the frontier where they saw hard use and often abuse, this one is the best .44-40 I've offered, barrel retains nearly all the deep blue showing only the most minor or age and edge wear, mag blue thinned and aged to mostly brown with some blue in the upper part below the barrel exc. wood with good wood to metal fit, butt plate is serial numbered to match the receiver on the underside, left side of receiver shows fine deep high polish blue with edge wear and minor age, right side shows good blue that is thinning a little more than the left side, but still nice color, fine blue on upper tang! and still some blue in fluted bolt on top of receiver, retains some aged case color on hammer and on upper part of lever, tight action with half cock notch only weak, bright exc. bore, original buckhorn rear sight with small blued blade front sight, this is a super rare Marlin especially in this condition! (looks better than photos)  $3650.

3) BEAUTIFUL VIVID CASE COLORS ON THIS HIGH CONDITION 1894 .32-20 ROUND BARREL RIFLE, MADE 1907, really spectacular case color especially on the left side and top of receiver, right side just slightly less vivid, nice blue on bolt, good color on upper part of lever, fine deep blue on barrel and mag showing just minor age, fine blue on forend cap, Marbles tang sight with original buckhorn and Rocky Mountain blade front sight, exc. wood with two exceptions: first, some very very light initials scratched barely through the finish on the left side of the stock- hard to notice and easily rubbed out if desired and second there is an almost invisible age or stress crack coming back from the upper back of the tang and going to the butt plate on both sides- looks like the grain of the wood and is solid and never reinforced- I owned this rifle for some time before even noticing these two things- bore should clean out about exc., screws look about untouched, a stunning Marlin, $2450.

4) HARD TO FIND 1895 LIGHT WEIGHT RIFLE IN .33WCF CALIBER WITH FANCY WALNUT STOCK! #406XXX, MADE C.1908-1909, uncleaned barrel and mag blue mixing with gray/brown, exc. sharp bore, original buckhorn rear sight with Sheard marked Marble blade/bead front sight, mostly silvered receiver with traces of case color remaining in the most protected areas of the rear of the receiver, on each side of the hammer and rear of bolt etc., generally exc. wood with s small chip at the toe, attractive reddish brown walnut with fancy fiddle back striping more pronounced in the butt stock- a good cleaning would really bring this unusual feature out, tight action, a not often seen Marlin 1895 variation, $2750.

 

 

                A NOTE ABOUT "MODERN MARLINS": Marlin has closed its doors for good in North Haven, Connecticut and been bought out by the folks who own Remington. It looks like some models have been put back into production with the barrels marked "Utica, New York."  I did see one of the new ones with the old North Haven barrel address so I assume they had left over barrels they were using up.  Quality in wood  to metal fit was fair at best and trigger pulls were off the scale heavy!  I doubt if any of the octagon barrel "cowboy models" will be produced again, although their online catalogue does show a model 1894 cowboy-type with octagon barrel in .45 Colt caliber only. I believe these traditional Marlins made in limited runs in North Haven, CT are going to be tomorrow's sought after Marlins.  Already prices for them are escalating rapidly.

1) RARE "MODERN" MARLIN MODEL 336CB COWBOY 24" OCTAGON RIFLE IN .38-55 CALIBER, now discontinued an with Marlin being bought out by Remington, probably never to be made again, this was a limited run and few are found for sale now, fancy checkered with traditional diamond in the middle of the wrist and forearm, Marbles tang sight and globe front with apertures, original barrel sights included, very lightly used, $1150. SOLD) YET ANOTHER SCARCE "MODERN" MARLIN VARIANT: 1895 .45-70 COWBOY WITH 26" OCTAGON BARREL, this one is flat new, unfired in the original box and still even has the Marlin tag on the lever and all paperwork in the box with serial numbered end label!  $1195. SOLD

2) LIMITED PRODUCTION AND VERY RARE 1895 .45-70 24” HALF OCTAGON BARREL FULL MAGAZINE RIFLE, the barrel is stamped “1895 LTD” and these were made some years ago in one small run, I don’t believe I’ve seen another, about new condition overall, $1195. SOLD

3) MODEL 1894S .44 MAG. OR SPECIAL, this is the carbine with the diamond checkered wrist and forend, has quick detachable swivel studs, about like new, $795. SOLD

4) MODEL 1894CB "COWBOY LIMITED" IN .44 MAGNUM AND SPECIAL, 20" OCTAGON BARREL, a little nicer than standard wood usually seen, very hard to find and like new, $1195. SOLD

5)  VERY RARE 1895 LTD-III .45-70 WITH 18 ½ INCH OCTAGON BARREL AND FULL MAGAZINE!       This is the first one of these I’ve seen.  Apparently they made the LTD series from I to V (5) for Davidsons Distributors I believe in the 1980s to 1990s.  One Thousand of these were supposedly made in 1999 ony,  but this is the first one I’ve seen or even heard of, I would bet a lot less than one thousand were made!  It is in very lightly used condition (near new) with a blued screw going into the right side where the cross bolt safety is, I believe these "filler kits" are sold through Brownell's, the cross bolt can be seen on the left side, but there is no movement in it and it does not protrude.  I imagine it would be easy enough to return to the normal cross bolt if one wanted to, also has a Redfield receiver sight with the normal Marlin folding buckhorn rear sight and blade/bead front, this model had the normal or “Ballard” style rifling as opposed to the regular Micro-groove rifling normally used- these are better for cast bullet shooting, a very rare Marlin that should appreciate in value over the years to come, $1195. SOLD

6) ONE OF THE RAREST AND HARDEST TO FIND OF THE “MODERN MARLINS” IS THIS 20” OCTAGON .44 MAGNUM MADE FOR ONE YEAR ONLY IN 1973!  According to the Marlin book 2,957 of these pre-safety Marlins were made, yet in over 25 years of searching I’ve only come across a small handful, which leads me to believe  lot fewer than this number were ever produced, this one has seen light use and aside from a few very, very light handling marks in the wood, looks near new, I don’t think I’ve ever offered one of these before! (note: marks on bottom photo of receiver is light reflection off oil) $1295.  SOLD

7)MODEL 444S (.444 MARLIN CALIBER), MADE 1971-1983, PRE-SAFETY, this one has unusual fairly fancy walnut in the butt stock and is all correct including the factory sling swivel studs, and Marlin marked recoil pad, about like new overall, a very hard to find model, (NOTE: what looks like edge wear is just photo light reflection) $895. SOLD

8) EARLY, FIRST TYPE RE-INTRODUCTION MODEL 1895.45-70, PRE SAFETY,  this is the one introduced in 1972 and only made until 1979, it has the straight stock with square lever and 2/3 magazine, rarely seen now, haven't been made in 35 years!  This one is near new overall, $895. SOLD

9) MODEL 1895 .45-70 COWBOY WITH 26" OCTAGON BARREL, about like new with only a minor handling mark in the butt stock, these are great rifles with "Ballard" rifling that handle cast bullets as well as jacketed- I have one that I wouldn't sell! (note: what looks like discoloration and edge wear is just photo light reflection- it's like new) $1150. SOLD

10) MODEL 1894CB "COWBOY LIMITED" .44 SPECIAL AND .44 MAGNUM WITH 24" OCTAGON BARREL AND CHECKERED STOCK AND FOREARM, these have Ballard Rifling instead of Micro-Groove, very hard to find now, about like new, $1195. SOLD

11) JUST IN: RARE MODEL 375, CHAMBERED IN .375 WINCHESTER CALIBER, MADE ONLY FROM 1980-1983! These were made in two styles- a lightweight straight stock carbine and a rifle with sling swivels, both with 20" barrels, very seldom seen today, this one is nearly new condition with only a few freckles on the left side of the receiver that you have to look for to find, this is an early one as it is a PRE-SAFETY model (the safety was introduced in 1983 and those made about this time will have the cross bolt safety), front sight hood intact, correct original folding buckhorn rear sight, (note what looks like receivef wear in the bottom photo is just light reflection, it is the same as the top photo) $895. SOLD

12) JUST IN: NEW IN THE BOX 1894 .44 SPECIAL AND MAGNUM CARBINE WITH CHECKERED WRIST AND FOREARM AND "BALLARD RIFLING" (NOT MICRO GROOVE RIFLING), complete with papers etc. $895.

 

 

 

ANTIQUE & CLASSIC RIFLES, SHOTGUNS AND PISTOLS (click text for photos) 

  1. SHARPS 1878 .45-70 BORCHARDT MUSKET, #18XXX, all correct including the "Old Reliable" marked barrel, tight action, safety functions fine (often these don't), original sights (screw only needed in rear sight), mostly gray to gray/brown metal with fine markings, some "vice grip" marks (?) on rear of barrel by receiver- minor, fairly bright bore with scattered light roughness, correct swivels, cleaning rod a replacement, fine forend with a couple cracks beginning around the receiver and moving forward- very minor and hardly worth mentioning- correct checkered steel butt plate, butt stock has had a piece of walnut expertly fitted where there was a chip on the right side of the wrist by the upper tang and has a slight age crack coming back from the receiver on the left side- all this is typical of a well used Borchardt and the wood is basically very solid and all sounds worse than it is, $1695.

  2. MARLIN-BALLARD No. 3 GALLERY RIFLE, .22RF CALIBER, 24" OCTAGON BARREL, SERIAL NUMBER 30XXX,  MADE 1880s, the No.3 Gallery rifle is easy to tell from every other Ballard as it has a "fluted" receiver top for use with the light .22 caliber barrel where as all other models have the "flat" top receiver, these are more scarce than the more common No.2 standard sporting rifle usually found in .32 and .38 Rim Fire/Center Fire (reversible firing pin), fine barrel blue with some minor  wear/scuffing mainly on top, uncleaned receiver is silvery with freckled brown and traces of original case color, fine+ wood with tight wood to metal fit, tight action, bore is dark with visible rifling but typically rough (the previous owner shot this rifle and said it "was very accurate!" Bore could use a good scouring and might come out better, buckhorn rear sight with small Winchester style blade front sight, matching serial numbers on receiver, forearm, butt plate and barrel, handsome little rifle, $1150.

  3. INTERESTING AND UNUSUAL CONNECTICUT ARMS HAMMOND PATENT SINGLE SHOT "BULLDOG" .44RF PISTOL IN VERY RARE NICKEL FINISH, MADE 1866-1880s, only about 8,000 of these big caliber guns were made and nearly all were blued, Flayderman's Guide says "a few known with original nickel finish..."  I've encountered only a very few in nickel over the years and this is one of the best, fine nickel with wear to brown around the high parts of the breech block left side and bottom and around the right side of the trigger and around the muzzle of the barrel- looks like this one might have been carried in a holster, still good nickel on most of the grip straps and barrel and left side of frame, exc. hard rubber "gutta percha" grips, exc. mech, bore will clean fine or better, a relatively big early cartridge derringer/pocket pistol in a rare finish in nice condition (Flayderman's latest edition- now 7 years out of date- lists these in exc. condition with standard blue finish at $1500), I have this one priced at $995.

  4. NEVER CLEANED, "AS FOUND" CONDITION RARE SIX SHOT DRAGOON SIZE ALLEN PEPPERBOX, .36 CALIBER 6" BARRELS, MADE LATE 1830's TO MID-1840s.  Has the early "Dog Leg" sharp angle walnut grips with silver ovals, engraved frame and nipple shield, early fluted ribbed barrels, overall deep brown patina with ancient uncleaned inactive surface rust/crud that is ON the metal as opposed to "IN" the metal.  I believe a good, long oil soak would remove most of it, fine grips, action works fine, these big holster size pepperboxes were very popular with the gold rush 49ers in California as well as many seeing use on the frontier and later in the Civil War.  These dragoon size ones are hard to find and this one is really untouched with a great look and feel!  $1150.

  5. HIGH CONDITION REID .22RF KNUCKLEDUSTER, MADE 1868-1882, still retains the original matching cylinder screw, retains most of the original nickel with freckling/flaking on the cylinder and very minor edge wear on the frame, sharp engraving, action functions fine, neat dual purpose revolver and brass knucks! Much better condition than normally found, $1895.

  6. BERETTA MODEL 1934 .380 AUTO PISTOL WITH ITALIAN ARMY PROOFS MADE 1938, lots of World War II history in this one! Fine blue overall with minor thinning/ageing on the slide and edges, exc. original grips, matching numbers, tight action, exc. inside, $475.

  7. PARTICULARLY FINE WORLD WAR II WALTHER P.38 MARKED "AC 43" INDICATING WALTHER MANUFACTURE DURING 1943, all matching numbers, fine blue overall with just normal light wear to the front strap and a little on the bottom of the trigger guard, exc. action, exc. bore, exc. correct magazine unaltered, fine brown grips show light wear only, correct proofs and Nazi markings, one of the better ones I've seen in a while, these are still bargains, but rapidly going up in value (as are all WWII guns), still cheap at $875.

  8. GREAT ODDITY! PERCUSSION  "ANTI-GARROTING" BELT-BUCKLE GUN! These are described in the book FIREARMS CURIOSA by Lewis Winant (now out of print, but I’ll copy the pertinent pages with text and photos with the gun), “How the percussion cap belt pistol, figures 170 and 171, operates may be seen at a glance.  The oval iron plate is about 7” long, and the pistol barrel protrudes about 1 ½”.  In this gun the cord runs from the lock through a channel in the belt for a foot or more, before being carried up to the shoulder and down through a coat sleeve.  A man ordered to put up his hands can grasp the weight and tighten he string as he raises his arms.  A belt pistol such as this had no appeal as a work or art and it was unlikely to be treasured because of its history or associations.  Once obsolete it was neglected, then discarded, soon it was rotted leather and scrap metal.  Now this belt pistol is a scarce collector item.”  That sums it up pretty well, aged brown patina, functions fine, $895.

  9. EARLY BROWN MANUFACTURING "SOUTHERNER" .41 RF SCARCE IRON FRAME DERRINGER, #4XXX WITH 1867 PATENT DATE, MADE 1869, a really fine example with what I believe is a full silver plate finish (looks too dull to be nickel and many were silvered), barrel finish thinning somewhat and aged to an attractive silver/gray, frame retains good silver with some thinning/ageing on the edges and grip straps all of which blends beautifully, sharp markings including the classic "SOUTHERNER" marking on the barrel top, exc. mech, exc. highly finished rosewood grips, bore will clean exc., rare variation and really sharp example of one of the earliest and most popular cartridge derringers usually found in hard used/hard carried condition, this is a nice one and priced attractively at (looks much better in person as photo lights exaggerate any minor spots- all of which blend in well) $795.

  10. REALLY NICE PARKER V-H, 12 GA., 30" SIDE BY SIDE SHOTGUN, #94XXX, much better than usually seen!  Still retains some nice case color on the rear right side, on the bottom of the receiver ahead of the trigger guard and in protected areas, exc. stock and forearm with only a tiny beginnings of a chip at the right upper tang/receiver juncture, sharp checkering, no cracks in the wrist!, original Parker embossed butt plate, fine barrel blue showing light handling/scuffing only with no dents, right shiny bores choked Modified and Full, even has some blue on the bottom of the trigger guard, super tight, Vulcan Steel marked barrel (not damascus), If I didn't have one like this that I shoot regularly, I'd keep this one!  Would cost a fortune to manufacture today! (3 photos)  $1795.

  11. UN-CATALOGUED, FIRST I’VE EVER SEEN OR EVEN HEARD OF!! HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON AUTO EJECT REVOLVER WITH KNIFE ATTACHMENT OR  “AUTOMATIC BAYONET REVOLVER”… BUT WAIT, THIS ONE IS CHAMBERED FOR THE .32 SMITH & WESSON CARTRIDGE AND IS IN BLUE FINISH!  To quote Flayderman’s Guide- about the only source on these- “Made only in .38CF according to their 1902 advertising. Made c.1901 to 1917.  Estimated quantity 2,000…”  These are really scarce items with great appeal and, of course, every one I’ve seen has been .38 caliber and almost all in nickel finish- blue is super rare.  So, if the 1902 advertising says they are only in .38, and they started making them in 1901 perhaps they made a few in .32 that first year- I have no other ideas.  The frame is clearly marked “AUTO EJECTING 32 S&W CTGE”   Condition is really sharp with nice blue overall with normal age and wear to the back strap and bottom of trigger guard, some ageing on the barrel sides and cylinder edges, even the front strap has nice blue!  Dagger blade has not been sharpened or chipped, spring that holds it under the barrel is still strong, bright exc. bore, exc. mech.  Exc. grips, an incredible find! $1950.

  12. WONDERFUL ODDITY/FIREARMS CURIOSA FIND!!! THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST UNUSUAL BURGLAR OR POACHER ALARM GUNS I'VE EVER SEEN!!! Probably dates from the last half of the 19th century, all iron construction consisting of a long pointed four sided iron rod that is stuck in the ground- 32 inch overall length.  Then a 12 ga. blank cartridge is placed in the "cylindrical holder" half way along the rod, it is then covered with the chain held "cover" containing a protruding-retracting "firing pin," the heavy solid sliding weight is suspended above this "chamber" and a string is attached to the iron retaining hook. When said bad guy or poacher trips the string, it pulls away the retaining hook, the weight slides down the rod and slams into the cartridge cover setting off the blank which alerts whoever needs to be alerted AND SCARES THE CRAP OUT OF THE BAD GUY OR POACHER IN THE PROCESS! There is also a chain held "safety pin" below the weight so that if in setting the alarm the hook slips, the weight will only fall an inch or so and catch on the pin.  Once the alarm is set, the pin is removed and dangles by its chain so it isn't lost.  Nice smooth dark iron, all in fine condition. Looks to be all hand forged.  First one I've ever seen like this.  $975.

  13. CLASSIC MANNLICHER-SCHOENAUER MODEL 1905 FULL STOCKED CARBINE WITH DOUBLE SET TRIGGERS IN 9 X 56 CALIBER, AND RETAINS THE ORIGINAL CLAW MOUNTS AND "4X C. P. GOERZ, BERLIN" MARKED SCOPE! One of the classiest rifles ever produced and one that would be too expensive to manufacture today, great condition overall with about all the deep blue remaining on the original 20 1/2" barrel, forend cap, action and trigger guard/floor plate, even the butt plate with almost seamless trapdoor retains excellent bright blue with wear only on the upper and lower extreme edges, exc. wood with sharp checkering, wonderful tight claw mounts come off with in a second with a push of a single button and remount just as fast!  They are also see through so the shooter has the option of using the two leaf folding express rear barrel sight or the scope, traditional oval cheek piece, original loop sling swivels intact, tight action, bright bore, cartridges are easily made from 8 X57 brass or can be found formed and loaded, exc. bright optics in scope with three post reticle. These are almost always found with the claw mounts intact but the matching rings missing- these mounts and rings alone are probably worth a thousand dollars with scope,  truly a wonderful rifle from the golden pre-World Wars I and II age! (note: photo light reflection on bottom photo of stock) $2650.

  14. VERY RARE PRE-WORLD WAR II HIGH STANDARD .22 SHORT CALIBER, MODEL C AUTO PISTOLS (HAVE TWO):  A) VERY EARLY TYPE 1, 4 1/2" BARREL #15XX, MADE C.1936-1937, has the earliest features, fine deep blue overall with only minor edge/holster wear and some thinning of the blue on the grip straps, exc. mech. and bore, $795.   B) LATER TYPE 2, 6 3/4" #49XXX, about the same condition as the first one described, $795.

                             

 

 

MODERN AND MISCELLANEOUS

1) COOPER ARMS MODEL 38 MONTANA-VARMINT SINGLE SHOT BOLT ACTION IN .17 ACKLEY HORNET! Nicely figured rich walnut stock with "ventilated" forend for barrel cooling, matte blue action and trigger guard with stainless barrel, three-panel checkered bolt handle (I believe this is a custom extra), checkered wrist with smooth varmint style wide forend, complete with matching matte bases and rings, weighs 7 1/2 lbs as pictured, appears very lightly, these Montana made rifles are amazingly accurate and beautifully fit and finished (I am a fan of this caliber and was tempted to keep this one!), Here's their catalogue description: " The MTV is available in the Model 21/22/38/54/57M and features AA+ Claro walnut, hand checkered grip, oil finish, Pachmayr recoil pad, steel grip cap, a ventilated forearm, and a Wilson Arms stainless steel, straight taper premium match grade barrel. All of the metal work on the MTV is matte finish."  Cheap at $1595.

2) BERETTA MODEL 71 .22LR AUTO PISTOL, nice lightweight auto that should make for a nice trail gun, great Beretta made in Italy quality inside and out, seen very light use only, $495.

3) MASTERPIECE ARMS, COMER, GEORGIA MINI 9 (9MM LUGER CALIBER), like new with 35 round magazine, cartridge-loading accessory and detachable/threaded barrel extension (NOT a suppressor or silencer), all in original case with owners manual etc.  Supposed to be one of the most reliable arms of this type, intimidating high capacity home protector! $495.

 

 

 

 REMINGTON (click text for photos)

1)VERY UNUSUAL ROLLINGBLOCK TWO BAND MILITARY MUSKET IN DESIRABLE .50-70 CALIBER WITH FULL FACTORY NICKEL FINISH, this is the third one of these I’ve seen in about 20 years and all I’ve seen were in hard-used condition, this is the best condition one, There are no foreign proofs or markings and also no U.S. markings indicating that this was a commercial model sold in the United States as this cartridge wasn’t available any place else- except maybe Mexico, I have a copy of a the 1877 Remington catalogue that shows a similar rifle called “United States Model caliber .50” yet is shows a photo of a three band musket with 32 ½” barrel while this one has two bands and a 30 ½” barrel, nickel plating was very common on the “Baby Carbine” in .44-40 caliber and it’s my opinion this was just a civilian version that shooters wanted in nickel finish as black powder fouling cleaned off easier than blue, this was especially popular in the early southwest and Mexico, fine attractive aged nickel on the barrel and receiver with some flaking/browning on the bottom of the receiver and trigger guard, hammer and high edges of the butt plate, minor peeling/browning at the muzzle, original sights (small slide missing from rear sight- should be easy to replace), needs cleaning rod only,  fine wood with a small sliver out of the left side of the forend by the receiver, fine bore will clean near excellent, a rare American frontier variation in a great caliber! $1150.

.2) ROLLINGBLOCK .50-70 NEW YORK STATE CONTRACT MUSKET, C.1871, nice example with bright exc. bore, correct cartouche at left side of the wrist, correct swivels and markings, tight action, original sights, fine wood with one shallow sliver just ahead of the receiver on the left side- minor, tight wood to metal fit, exc. screws, cleaning rod appears the right type, but is a little long and could easily be shortened to fit, $1150.

3) No. 1 ROLLINGBLOCK "TYPE 2" FACTORY SHOTGUN, chambered for the 16 gauge brass shell or the 20 gauge paper shell, 30" steel barrel (not damascus), fine walnut with tight wood to metal fit showing normal light handling/hunting wear, correct Rollingblock action with fluted top used only in shotguns, metal mostly an uncleaned gray/brown with good blue on the hammer and breech block, tight action, bore has some scattered light surface pitting but basically pretty decent for a black powder shotgun, correct military style butt plate, $795.

4) ALMOST NEVER SEEN REMINGTON ROLLING BLOCK TARGET PISTOL MODEL 1901 IN SCARCE AND DESIRABLE .44 RUSSIAN CALIBERRemington made less than 750 of these fine pistols and most seem to have been in the small rim fire calibers, exc. correctly checkered stock and forend, exc. barrel blue showing one or two very tiny spots where some rust was wiped off- you have to look carefully to see it, fine high polish receiver, trigger guard and grip strap blue with some scattered brown freckling, exc. blue on hammer and breech block, nice screws, exc. markings, tight action, correct original rear target sight in the receiver ring with half-moon and ivory bead front sight,  bright exc. bore! $2950.

5) HIGH CONDITION MODEL 6 .22LR SINGLE SHOT BOY'S RIFLE, ONE OF THE BEST I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME, this one is complete with the little sheet steel tang sight which was something like a fifty cent option at the time and are not usually found intact on these, vivid case color on both sides of the receiver, fine deep barrel blue showing light age only, exc. markings, exc. wood, correct Remington UMC marked steel butt plate and best of all has a bore that should clean out about exc.- bores on these usually terrible- original fixed sights, $595.

6) SCARCE HEPBURN SPORTING RIFLE, caliber stamped "38" on bottom of barrel- probably for the standard .38-50 Remington straight caliber, un-cut 28" medium/heavy weight octagon barrel with correct factory crown at muzzle, matching serial number (4XXX) on the bottom of the barrel, forend and butt plate, fine deep barrel blue, original buckhorn rear sight with blade front sight, early steel forend tip, fine forend and butt stock with tight wood to metal fit, correct checkered pistol grip, tiny hairline age crack coming back from the rear right of the upper tang for an inch or so- hardly worth mentioning, some light surface marks on each side of the barrel ahead of the forend probably from clamping in a vice at one time- minor, mottled dark aged brown receiver, trigger guard has a few dings in the front part and is a little bend out of shape with a small crack that doesn't go all the way through toward the bottom back of the guard, tight action, bore shows some light scattered roughness more toward the receiver end with good rifling and some overall wear, all these Hepburn Sporters are scarce in any condition, and many have been used to re-make into "new" black powder cartridge "shooters",  $1795.

7) WORLD WAR II O3-A3 SPRINGFIELD (see below in U.S. Military and Springfield section)

 

SAVAGE FIREARMS (click text for photos)

1) VERY EARLY 1899-B OCTAGON RIFLE IN STANDARD .303 SAVAGE CALIBER, #14XXX, MADE 1901, scarce octagon configuration showing fine lightly aged barrel blue, mostly gray receiver, buckhorn rear sight, Marbles ivory bead front sight, exc. bore with sharp rifling, fine forend with tight wood to metal fit shows normal handling/hunting wear only, butt stock shows usual couple cracks coming back from the top of the receiver with the also usual shallow chip, crescent butt plate with matching serial number stamped inside along with the number stamped in the stock, exc. mech. with fine working brass rotor magazine and spring, a true hunter/backwoodsman's rifle from the turn of the last century! $695.

2) SCARCE, UNALTERED MODEL 1920 BOLT RIFLE IN DESIRABLE .250-3000 SAVAGE CALIBER, This was the first successful bolt action sporter offered by a major firearms manufacturer (pre-dating both Remington and Winchester), made in both .300 Savage and .250 Savage with the latter being the most valuable and in demand, very hard to find in original condition without ever being fitted with a recoil pad or drilled and tapped for scope etc., this one retains most of the original blue that is naturally aged and thinning a little, exc. markings  with early serial number 32XX, trigger guard and floor plate turning gray with some blue around the trigger guard, generally excellent stock shows light handling only, has early style "hook-eye" swivel studs that appear to be factory, buckhorn rear sight with small blade/bead front sight, correct 22" barrel,  tight action, Savage marked serrated steel butt plate, bright excellent bore, really difficult to find in any condition but especially unaltered like this one, $1150.

3) MODEL 1917 .380 AUTO PISTOL, scarce item as only as only about 14,000 of these were made between 1920 and 1928, this is an early production example probably made first year, overall a solid gun that has seen use and carry, overall aged blue mixing plum/brown, never cleaned or steel-wooled, grips show wear but complete, correct magazine, exc. markings, tight action, exc. bore, $475.

 

 

SHILOH  SHARPS AND OTHER REPRODUCTIONS (click text for photos)

NOTE:  I am also a Shiloh Sharps dealer.  In fact, I am the only stocking dealer of Shiloh Sharps rifles.  I frequently have a selection of NIB stock on hand for immediate delivery AT CATALOGUE PRICE WITH NO ADDITIONAL PREMIUMS OR FEES!  For further info and lists of available rifles, see my other website,  www.shiloh-ballard.com  

 

1) TWO CUSTOM C. SHARPS MODEL 1875 RIFLES, MADE IN BIG TIMBER MONTANA:

     A) UNUSUAL .22LR PISTOL GRIP SPORTER, 24" tapered round barrel, fancy walnut stock, French gray finish on receiver and checkered steel butt plate, cheek piece with accent line, Ideal tang sight (no dovetail on the barrel for a rear sight), globe front sight that will take apertures, near new condition, weighs a little over 9 1/2 lbs., near new condition, $1695.

     B) PISTOL GRIP SPORTER IN .45-70 CALIBER, 28" heavy lightly tapered round barrel with mid range vernier tang sight and Hadley eye disc, spirit level globe front sight will take apertures, no rear barrel dovetail, case colored receiver and checkered steel butt plate, nicer than standard rich deep color walnut with a little figure, checkered pistol grip and forend, cheek piece with accent line, weighs right at about 11 lbs.,  seen very light use, $1695.

 

2) JONATHAN BROWNING PERCUSSION MOUNTAIN RIFLES: These are high quality U.S. made plains style or Hawken rifles made in the late 1970s to early 1980s.  They don't turn up too often today.  I have one I've been shooting since I got it in 1979! (click here for photos)

    A) .54 CALIBER BRASS MOUNTED, ABOUT NEW IN ORIGINAL BOX, $895.

   B) .54 CALIBER RARE IRON MOUNTED, generally excellent condition with the exception of some typical black powder pin-prick pitting on the left front portion of the barrel for about 6 inches and an inch on the right side- not overly apparent unless you look for it and could probably be dressed down, nicely figured walnut.  I bought both of these rifles and didn't even notice this barrel pitting until later, $795.

 

 

SMITH AND WESSON (click text for photos)

1) UNCLEANED, UNMESSED WITH .44-40 DOUBLE ACTION FRONTIER, 5" BARREL, #37XX, A really attractive example in scarce and desirable blue finish (most seemed to be nickel), overall metal is an aged plum/blue with good blue in all the more protected areas, exc. screws, grips, markings, action, fairly bright bore has some very light scattered surface roughness that might brush out, tight mech, ejector works perfectly, all matching numbers, I really like the appearance of this one, hard to find in .44-40, antique, (note: photo light reflection mainly in bottom photo) $1495.

2) ONE OF THE BEST WORLD WAR I MODEL 1917 .45ACP REVOLVERS I'VE OFFERED, early example #27XXX, all matching numbers, correctly proofed and still retains the "UNITED STATES PROPERTY" marking under the barrel (many have had this marking ground off), shows only the lightest of holster/handling wear with even the grip straps showing about all the bright blue, correct butt markings, swivel intact, exc. walnut grips, perfect inside, nice case color on hammer, (bottom photo shows oily finger prints that caught photo lights) $1395.

3) FIRST YEAR PRODUCTION, PRE-WAR .38-44 HEAVY DUTY 5" HIGH POLISH BLUE FINISH "N" FRAME REVOLVER WITH FACTORY LETTER SHOWING SHIPMENT IN 1930 TO SHAPLEIGH HARDWARE Co., ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI, only 11,111 made 1930-1941, unparalleled high polish blue on this early Great Depression Era S&W, shows light holster/edge wear only and one finger nail size spot on the right side of the frame below the hammer where rust was wiped off at some time, nice case colors on hammer, back strap shows good aged/dulled blue, matching serial numbers, untouched screws, grips are the correct style, but not numbered to the gun and show a little more wear/nicks- this was typical as most of these were service revolvers for law enforcement and many in that field fitted their handguns with stag or ivory grips- My, how things have changed! Tight (amazing really) action, perfect inside, (photos don't do this one justice- the high polish blue must be seen in person to be appreciated)  $875.

4) EARLY .38/44 OUTDOORSMAN TARGET MODEL OF 1950 "PRE-MODEL 23" .38 SPECIAL CALIBER,  5 SCREW "N" FRAME, MADE 1952-1953, ONLY 6,039 MADE 1950-1966, one of the more scarce and desirable post-war S&Ws, excellent inside and out with only a tiny amount of blue wear at each side of the muzzle and a light cylinder drag line, exc. diamond checkered magna walnut grips, nice case color on the hammer and trigger, great action/trigger, target sights, rapidly appreciating in value, (note: any blemishes or "dots" or "plum coloration" in the photos is just photo light reflection on oil or glare- this gun has great even blue overall!)  $1100.

 

 

U.S. MILITARY AND SPRINGFIELD (click text for photos)

1) RARE MODEL 1881 TRAPDOOR FORAGER SHOTGUN, SERIAL NUMBER 3XX, 100% CORRECT, ONLY 1376 OF THIS DISTINCT MODEL WERE MADE AT SPRINGFIELD FOR ISSUE TO FRONTIER OUTPOSTS FOR HUNTING AND FOOD GATHERING BY THE TROOPS! Most of these saw very hard use and abuse, this is one of the better ones I've seen, 26" barrel, bore should scrub out about exc., light cartouche in stock (rarely found on these, stock generally fine with one small chip just ahead of the forend retaining screw in the bottom of the forend where the Springfield Arsenal filled the original ramrod channel (these were made using left over Civil War stocks!), correct 1873 dated lock plate with two click tumbler, breech block correctly marked "1881" etc.  fine aged barrel blue, fine dark patina on breech and trigger guard, one of the more scarce of the U.S. Indian Wars Springfields, $2650.

2) SUPER RARE EXPERIMENTAL 1886 TRAPDOOR SADDLE RING CARBINE WITH CORRECT 24" BARREL AND FULL STOCK, ONLY 1,000 MADE FOR THE CAVALRY IN 1886, correct "XC" (for experimental carbine) marked Buffington rear sight, correct special curved front swivel used only on this model, in the proper serial number range #342XXX, rarely encountered model that even most military collectors have never encountered, lightly cartouched stock is in fine+ condition showing only normal light handling, fine markings, this model had both sling ring and swivels (ring only taken off ring bar- easily replaced), barrel looks like it's been cleaned at some point and is silvery- possibly done at arsenal, bright excellent bore, correct trap in butt plate, all of these were issued to cavalry troops in the west during the last years of the Indian War period and most saw very hard service, $3450.

3) 1898 KRAG RIFLE, .30-40 CALIBER,  readable 1902 dated cartouche in stock, aged blue to brown barrel, 1898 rear sight- handguard is cut for the later 1901 sight- fine wood overall, bore is dark but should scrub out to about fine, needs front swivels only, uncleaned solid example, $695.

4) REMINGTON O3-A3 SPRINGFIELD, BARREL DATED 1943, last of the great Model 1903s, nice example with about all the metal finish remaining, bright exc. bore, exc. wood with light FJA and circle P cartouches, tight action, original peep rear sight, $875.

5) SMITH & WESSON M-1917 .45ACP REVOLVER (see above in S&W section)

 

 

WINCHESTERS (click text for photos) .

 
  1. PARTICULARLY FINE CONDITION LATER MODEL 1873 .32-20 OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1909, exc. deep barrel and magazine blue, receiver blue mixing/ageing an uncleaned and very attractive soft plum and brown with better blue in protected areas, original dust cover, un-dented brass lifter engraved with caliber, exc. markings, exc. screws, exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit, bore shows some crud in the grooves only that I think is probably some leading as the lands appear fine- I ran a brush and patch through it and black came out (not rust) so it should scrub out to fine+ or even better, original sights, really a nice and attractive 1873 that should prove to be a fine investment for the future, (note: in photos the dark area on the stock is minor color difference that photo lights exaggerated), $2495.

  2. 1873 .38-40 WITH RARE 28" OCTAGON BARREL, MADE 1889, scarce 4" longer than standard barrel, overall metal an aged plum brown with good blue on the loading gate, dust cover intact, uncleaned brass lifter, generally fine+ wood with one ding in bottom of the forend- minor, original buckhorn rear sight with small blade front, dark bore will scrub out VG or better, overall uncleaned attic condition, $2395.

  3. 1873 .44-40 MUSKET, MADE 1891, this is a desirable "antique pre-1899" serial number musket as many were made post "antique date," barrel blue aged to a plum brown, receiver also aged to gray/brown with some aged blue on the loading gate, correct original military style rear sight, VG wood with some wood fill in a few dings that blend well and are unimportant, tight mech., lever catch and dust cover intact, fairly bright bore should clean out about exc., mellow brass lifter engraved "44 CAL" with all other markings fine, needs military style inletted swivel in butt stock only, fine screws, $1850.

  4. 1873 .32-20 OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1890, really nice uncleaned appearance with receiver, barrel and magazine a deep attractive plum patina, original sights, original dust cover intact, exc. screws, exc. wood showing very light handling with tight wood to metal fit, bore is dark with some roughness and needs a good scrubbing out, tight action, uncleaned mellow brass lifter, $1395.

  5. RARE CALIBER 1885 HIGHWALL IN .38-56 WCF CALIBER, MADE 1889, only 610 Highwalls were made in this caliber, most people don’t realize the .38-56 is simply the 45-70 necked down to .38 caliber and is much more powerful than the common  .38-55 which actually only took about 42 grains of powder,  mottled aged brown receiver, tight action, aged barrel blue with some scattered evidence of light rust and mixing brown overall, fine bore should clean out even better, front sight blade made from old copper U.S. penny, buckhorn rear sight, 30” oct. No.3 weight barrel, fine walnut with tight wood to metal fit, name very lightly scratched and worn in behind lower tang- easily rubbed out or just left as is- hardly noticeable, small crack starting on left front of forend coming back for an inch or so- minor, these are getting hard to find especially in non-standard big calibers, $1695.

  6. 1886 .40-82 OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1892, fine example with very good aged and lightly thinning barrel blue, mag tube mostly gray/brown with some blue on the very top section below the barrel, fine blue on the bolt, fine wood with tiny chip out of the usual upper tang/receiver juncture on the left side, mostly gray receiver with untouched screws, repaired crack in the upper tang just behind the hammer (this was always a weak spot) and is now solid- you have to look for it to really see it, original front sight, rear buckhorn may be a replacement and needs elevator bar only, fine bore has some scattered very light roughness that may scour out, tight action, this one came out of Idaho, sharp appearance, $2450.

  7. 1886 EXTRA LIGHT WEIGHT TAKEDOWN RIFLE IN .33WCF CALIBER SHIPPED FIRST YEAR OF THE .33WCF IN AUGUST OF 1902, the Cody Museum info on this rifle lists it exactly as it is including the 1/2 magazine, takedown and shotgun butt with rubber butt plate, yet the barrel has the rare "MADE IN U.S.A." on the left side and "-MODEL 1886-" on the right side which is usually on later guns, plus the barrel has a Winchester proof mark which means it went back to the factory or left the factory after 1905.  My guess is that perhaps someone sent in the front half of this takedown rifle for a new barrel because of the markings, but who knows?  Also, the walnut is extremely dark in the forend and butt stock and obviously match, so as I said, the front half might have been sent in to Winchester for a repair or new barrel, regardless, it is all 100% Winchester and letters correctly, dark patina receiver has never been cleaned or steel-wooled, barrel blue aged and thinned, bore is bright, sharp and perfect! fine wood shows normal light handling with one very small chip by the middle of the upper tang on the right side (not a corner chip as usually seen), buckhorn rear sight with Marbles blade/ivory bead front sight, tight action and takedown, came out of here in Montana, super bore! $1495.

  8. INTERESTING 1892 44-40 SADDLE RING CARBINE, MARKED IN TINY LETTERING ON THE LEFT FRONT OF THE RECEIVER: “CARLOS RESETTI” OVER “26 RIVADAVIA BUENOS AIRES” MADE 1908, a quick Google search showed he was an arms dealer in Buenos Aires, Argentina at this time, good aged barrel and mag blue, receiver blue has turned an attractive dark plum patina, good screws, carbine sights (ladder needs the slide only), fine walnut stock and forend with one tiny crack just coming back from the upper tang on the right side- minor, fine bore with good rifling might clean better, lightly carved “brand” or symbol on left side of the stock toward the butt plate- meaning unknown but very shallow and does not detract, tight action, $1950.

  9. THE RAREST 1892 VARIATION I'VE SEEN! FACTORY 32" OCTAGON BARREL WITH DOUBLE SET TRIGGERS AND CORRECT TWO MAGAZINE RETAINING BANDS! MADE 1907, longer than the standard 24" barrels were only offered until 1908 and according to the Winchester Handbook by Madis only 744 rifles had longer  than standard barrels- in my experience 26" seems to be the most common and even these are of course rare, this is the only 32" I've ever seen, barrels in all models over 30" (32"-36") were made with two magazine retaining bands, close coupled double set triggers are also rare, caliber .25-20, standard buckhorn rear sight with Beech folding globe front sight, mottled uncleaned gray/brown barrel and mag, mag tube has a few dents just ahead of the forend cap,  fine markings, receiver mostly gray with some replaced screws and one minor screw missing on the top left side of the receiver, set triggers function fine, fine wood, dark bore should clean out good to VG, tight action, Winchester couldn't have made more than a small handful of this barrel length! $3650.

  10. 1892 .32-20 OCTAGON RIFLE WITH LYMAN TANG SIGHT, MADE 1905, fairly bright exc. bore, fine slightly aged deep barrel and mag blue, fine blue on the left side of the receiver and bolt, right side shows a bit more blue wear to the forward part, nice blue on the loading gate, exc. screws, wood shows normal light handling only with tight wood to metal fit, rear sight removed (because of tang sight), tight action, attractive overall, $1495.

  11. VERY EARLY ANTIQUE SERIAL NUMBER 1892 .38-40 OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1893, uncleaned example with all metal surfaces an even plum color with only a little gray on the bottom and edges of the receiver, generally exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit, buckhorn rear sight with small blade/bead front sight, bore slightly dark with sharp rifling and ought to clean out about exc., $1495.

  12. SPECIAL ORDER 1892 .32-20 ROUND BARREL RIFLE WITH HALF MAGAZINE, MADE 1911, aged barrel blue mixing heavily  with brown, exc. wood (maybe slightly higher than standard grade walnut as usually picked for special order rifles) with tight wood to metal fit, uncleaned aged gray/brown receiver with good blue on the loading gate and some evidence of some old wiped-off rust- NOT steel wooled- very minor and barely noticeable, bore will clean excellent, original sights, tight action, $1295.

  13. SUPER RARE CHECKERED PISTOL GRIP 1892 WITH EXTRA LONG 28” OCTAGON BARREL AND FULL MAGAZINE! .25-20, MADE 1901, everything checks out with the Winchester records at Cody, all pistol grip 1892s are really rare and one with a 28” barrel is amazingly so!  Aged and thinned barrel blue, mag tube mostly brown, original sights, uncleaned mostly brown receiver with some blue remaining on the loading gate, unusual that it has a crescent butt plate as most pistol grip guns have shotgun butt plates, checkering a bit worn but good on the pistol grip, checkering on forend visible but heavily worn, initials in right side of butt stock- old and worn in- could probably be rubbed out, tight action, bore a little dark with fine rifling, a true 1892 oddity! $2950.

  14. 1892 SADDLE RING CARBINE, .25-20, MADE 1918, typical ranch gun that came out of Arizona, metal mostly gray/brown with some blue on the rear most part of the barrel and on the loading gate, generally VG wood showing normal handling/hunting wear with one saddle scabbard rub spot on the left side of butt stock- minor, saddle ring intact, nice three leaf express rear sight with all three leaves intact, tight action, bore is a bit dark and shows light wear with good rifling, $1150.

  15. HIGH CONDITION 1894 .25-35 OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1910, fine deep barrel and mag blue, fine receiver blue that is slightly thinning on the sides and mixing brown on top, edges and bottom, exc. attractive reddish brown wood with exc. wood to metal fit, three leaf express rear sight (as is typical, middle leaf has one side "wing" broken), original Winchester front sight, bore is dark with good rifling and needs a good scrubbing out, unturned screws, very hard to find octagon .25-35 rifles and this is a particularly fine one, (note: receiver looks better than in photos) $2150.

  16. UNUSUAL SPECIAL ORDER 1894 SADDLE RING CARBINE, .32WS CALIBER, WITH 3/4 LENGTH MAGAZINE, MADE 1920, all original and unaltered, fine deep blue on barrel and magazine, receiver mostly flaked to gray with some blue on the bolt and in protected areas, good blue on loading gate, generally excellent wood with tight wood to metal fit, minty bore, correct carbine sight with slide intact, saddle ring intact, scarce variant, $1195.

  17. 1894 FACTORY 20" OCTAGON SHORT RIFLE, WITH LONG LYMAN RECEIVER SIGHT, .30WCF, MADE 1924, fine example of this scarce variation, has the correct one inch shorter than standard forearm used only on short rifles, retains most of the deep barrel and mag blue showing light age only, exc. markings, original front sight, rear sight replaced with slot filler, receiver sight retains the flip-down aperture and is complete- probably put on at the factory as there is some blue remaining under the sight, receiver shows normal flaky blue/black 1920s receiver finish in the right side, lever and bolt with more flaked to gray/brown on left side with traces of blue in rear portion, some blue remains on forend cap, exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit and untouched screws (!), bore should scrub out about exc., difficult to find variation as most people who wanted a 20" gun simply bought a carbine with 20" barrel as standard. Most of these saw very hard use and this is much better than most encountered.  $2650.

  18. SPECIAL ORDER 1894 .32-40 RIFLE WITH HALF OCTAGON BARREL AND HALF MAGAZINE, MADE 1908, very hard to find caliber and I don't recall seeing another with this unusual configuration- usually these are seen in .30WCF, exc. wood with normal light handling, tight wood to metal fit, aged barrel blue, fine blue on loading gate,  mostly gray receiver, mostly gray/brown receiver, nice screws, flattop buckhorn rear sight with blade/bead front sight, bore a bit dark with good rifling and should clean fine+ or better, scarce caliber/configuration, $1395.

  19. NICE CONDITION 1894 .30WCF ROUND BARREL RIFLE, MADE 1905, exc. deep barrel and mag blue showing the lightest of wear only, receiver shows fine blue with edge wear and some silvering from carry on the bottom, upper tang shows most of the deep blue, nice light case color on the upper part of the lever sides, perfect bright bore, exc. wood with standard sling swivel in the butt and another in the forend tip- may be factory, original sights, tight action, nice example of a classic early 1894 with great bore! $1595.

  20. ANOTHER VERY RARE 1894 SPECIAL ORDER SADDLE RING CARBINE IN SCARCE AND DESIRABLE .32-40 CALIBER, WITH 2/3 MAGAZINE, MADE 1923, this is the most difficult caliber to find in a saddle ring carbine, excellent barrel and mag blue showing light age, receiver blue mixing a very pleasing and attractive plum, generally exc. walnut stock and forend with one tiny chip put back in at the usual right side upper tang/rec. juncture- hardly noticeable, correct carbine rear and front sights, $2150.

  21. 1894 SADDLE RING CARBINE WITH SPECIAL ORDER SHOTGUN BUTT, .32WS CALIBER, MADE 1923, correct for period fluted comb butt stock with steel butt plate, fine+ walnut with tight wood to metal fit and just normal handling/hunting wear, fine+ barrel and mag blue showing light wear and some light thinning on mag tube, receiver mostly gray with good blue around the protected area of the saddle ring- typical for 1920s vintage Winchesters to have flaked receivers, carbine rear sight with correct long Marbles carbine front sight, bright exc. bore, tight action, $995.

  22. 1894 SPECIAL ORDER HALF OCTAGON BARREL, HALF MAGAZINE, SHOTGUN BUTT.30 WCF RIFLE, MADE 1907, special three leaf express sight (all leaves intact) with standard factory front sight, fine+ wood showing light handling only, checkered steel shotgun butt plate, fine aged barrel blue showing some thinning gray/brown receiver with nice blue on the loading gate, bore is dark and frosty with good rifling- I ran a brush and patch through it and it came out full of black crud, so I assume it needs more brushing and cleaning- tight action, nice appearance, $1295.

  23. 1895 IN RARE AND DESIRABLE .405 WCF CALIBER, WITH ALSO DESIRABLE SHOTGUN BUTT,  MADE 1920, completely unaltered and unfooled with example with MINTY BRIGHT BORE, exc. barrel blue showing minor wear only, fine receiver blue on the lower portion and on the magazine sides with thinning blue on the upper portions, exc. blue on the bolt, buckhorn rear sight with blade/bead front sight, tight wood to metal fit with wood showing light handling only, correct excellent and un-chipped Winchester embossed hard rubber butt plate, exc. screws, tight action, forend retains the factory ebony inlay, these are getting super hard to locate especially unaltered with bright bores and shotgun butt stocks! $3650.

  24. 1897 12 GAUGE RIOTGUN, #928XXX, MADE DURING WORLD WAR II, civilian example with correct 20" barrel and marked "CYL" on the side of the barrel, tight takedown with matching numbers on barrel assembly and receiver, fine blue on both barrel and receiver with some scattered scuffing and some small areas mixing brown from age, exc. wood with correct Winchester embossed hard rubber butt plate, bright bore, tight action, getting difficult to find especially with this much blue, $875.

  25. RARE 1897 26" CYLINDER BORE "BRUSH GUN," MADE 1905, a little known scarce variation on the famed 1897 12 Ga. pump shotgun as most of these have 30" full choke barrels or are 20" cylinder bore Riot guns, overall metal is an uncleaned gray/brown with blue in the more protected areas, fine butt stock with an all but imperceptible repair from a couple of the usual cracks coming back from the receiver, exc. forend with one age crack on the right side through the screw hole that goes nowhere, butt plate is cracked and could be (should be) epoxy glued, all this sounds a lot worse than it is, tight action, bright bore needs a clean and should have only very light scattered surface roughness if any at all, a seldom seen 1897, $575.

  26. HIGH CONDITION MODEL 53 IN SCARCE .32-20, EARLY EXAMPLE MADE 1925, fine deep blue overall with some light pin prick flaking/plumming on the receiver, even the upper tang shows nice blue as does the bolt and loading gate, original sights, exc. wood with very tight wood to metal fit, exc. screws, bright about exc. bore,  hard to find caliber and particularly fine condition, $2150.`

  27. MODEL 53 SOLID FRAME .25-20 CALIBER RIFLE, MADE 1928, fine unaltered example with correct steel shotgun butt plate, nice wood showing very light handling only with tight wood to metal fit, receiver shows some good thinning blue on the left side and blue in the protected areas of the right side with better blue on the bolt (typical flaking of the blue on receiver of 1920s vintage guns), fine barrel blue with some light/minor thinning only with some typical blue wear at the muzzle, exc. sharp bore, original sights, tight action, a scarcer variation than most people realize with only a little over 15,000 made from 1924-1934 when the Great Depression killed this model, $1495.

  28. MODEL 55 TAKEDOWN RIFLE, .30WCF CALIBER, MADE 1929 (THE YEAR OF THE GREAT STOCK MARKET CRASH!), fine example of a scarce model of which only 20,580 of all styles and calibers were produced from 1924-1932, retains nearly all the barrel blue with only minor wear, Marbles buckhorn rear sight, receiver mostly flaked to gray with good blue in the more protected areas and nice blue on the bolt and loading gate, tight takedown, exc. wood with correct steel butt plate, tight wood to metal fit, exc. bore, exc. screws, another Montana rifle, $1395.

  29. HIGH CONDITION EARLY MODEL 63 20" CARBINE, #5XXX, MADE 1935, super example of this rare variation retaining about all the bright deep blue with only a little silvering on the butt plate and forward sides of the forend cap and a touch of thinning on the forward portion of the trigger guard bow, wood and metal lightly cleaned- just enough to see some very minor steel wool lines on the receiver sides and smoothing of the stock, exc. wood with a slight age/stress crack coming back for an inch or so on the right side of the forend coming back from the forend cap- really minor and hardly worth mentioning, tight wood to metal fit, very sharp markings including the proof mark on top of the barrel and receiver ring, original sights, exc. action and bright bore, $1495.

  30. MODEL 65 IN DESIRABLE .218 BEE CALIBER, MADE 1936 AND PERIOD MOUNTED WITH A WEAVER J4 CROSS HAIR AND DOT SCOPE IN CORRECT STITH  REAR MOUNT (AND WEAVER FRONT MOUNT), generally exc. wood shows handling only, original checkered steel shotgun butt plate,  fine barrel blue with normal scuffs from use, receiver blue is ageing and mixing silvery on usual handling areas (bottom and edges etc.) with better blue in all the protected areas, fine optics, tight action, bright exc. bore, only 2549 of these .218s were made, interesting rear scope mount is angled over the receiver top so empty fired cases would eject into this angle and be thrown out the side, also has a Stith front block just ahead of the front objective lens.  I’ll bet this rifle accounted for a lot of small game and varmints!  $2150

  31. MODEL 71 DELUXE RIFLE, .348 WCF, MADE 1956, ONE OF THE LAST OF THIS GREAT MODEL, a particularly fine example with exc. blue overall showing only a few minor barrel scuffs and some gray on the receiver bottom from normal hunting/handling, correct Lyman receiver sight with rear dovetail filler, generally excellent wood shows light normal handling, fine checkering and correct Winchester embossed grip cap and super grade inletted swivel studs, exc. bore and tight action, original checkered steel butt plate, tight wood to metal fit, (NOTE: lots of photo light glare and reflection makes the receiver blue look washed out and thin etc., it is deep bright blue except on bottom of rec. as noted, just go by my written description)  $2495.

 

    BILL GOODMAN,  305 DONEGAL DRIVE,  BOZEMAN,  MONTANA  59715           TEL.  (406) 587-3131          FAX  (406) 219-3415   

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 THESE W WERE SUCH  GOOD NOTES FROM THE FIELD I'M KEEPING THEM HERE.

NOTES FROM THE FIELD:  (27 April 2011) CRACKED STOCKS!  Seems like an odd thing to write about, but this is something I've not seen in print before. I've observed a lot of rifles with cracks coming straight back toward the butt plate from the upper and lower tangs. Sometimes the cracks are severe enough to warrant repairs (like cross bolts etc. through the wrist or extensive gluing) and other times the stock remains pretty solid as is.  So what caused this condition in the first place?  I've hunted with all kinds of rifles in all kinds of weather and terrain and never had a gun get damaged like all these I've seen.  And I've taken some pretty bad falls too. Once, on ice I couldn't see beneath a couple inches of fresh snow, my feet went out from under me and my rifle landed a number of yards away!  Still, no cracks like these. So I've been puzzled by this for some time.  Then it hit me, since these guns all seemed like Western big game rifles- large lever actions like 1876 and 1886 Winchesters or Marlin 1881 and 1895s as well as all over while the rifles were in saddle scabbards- fairly common in icy winter conditions, especially in the mountains. Also, sometimes horses will walk so close to trees that they rub against them.  If a rifle is in a butt-forward position scabbard, the rifle can go on one side of the tree and the horse the other causing a stress cracked stock.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.  The wrists are fairly strong on most rifles and it takes a lot to crack one.  If anyone else has a different theory about this condition, I'd like to hear it!

          

 

NOTES FROM THE FIELD:  (24 OCTOBER 2011) "GUNS OF THE GREAT DEPRESSION YEARS"  When the Great Depression began with the Stock Market Crash of 1929 America was taken by surprise.  Prior to this pivotal event, in the gun industry production was high and sales were brisk.  Almost overnight sales fell off hugely.  The Winchester Handbook by George Madis shows production numbers by years of some of the major models.  This is pretty illuminating.  Here are some examples: Model 1890 .22RF had 12,367 produced in 1928 and 696 made in 1932; Model 1892 saw 64,833 produced in 1910 and 491 in 1930; Model 53 had 2,861 produced in 1925 and 30 made in 1937; Model 1894 had 29,967 made in 1927 and only1,192 made in 1934; Model 55 had 3,064 made in 1927 and 42 made in 1936. Colt, Marlin, Savage, Remington and Smith & Wesson etc. all f elt the same pressure.  With production down to a fraction of what it was, the big manufacturers had no choice but to fire employees.  Those lucky enough to be retained were the most highly skilled and experienced craftsmen.  They also had time to put extra fine fitting and finishing into each firearm.  Generally, the quality of these guns is truly exceptionally.  With production numbers of these late pre-war arms relatively small and quality without peer, their value should be assured.  Some of the scarce large frame Colt and S&W handguns- especially the target sighted versions- are almost breathtaking in their fit an  d finish.  This has been an under-appreciated niche in arms collecting/investing. It is my belief Great Depression era  arms are often "sleepers" on the antique market today and are bound to increase in value at a rapid pace making them excellent long term investment.

 

 

DAVID