BILL GOODMAN,  305 DONEGAL DRIVE,  BOZEMAN,  MONTANA  59715

                         TEL. (406) 587-3131        FAX (406) 219-3415

      Bill Goodman has been a collector of antique/collector firearms for well over 40 years and a full time dealer for over 28 years.  Traveling around the country constantly seeking good quality collector arms at REALISTIC PRICES, Bill sells exclusively by mail order.  He has advertised in every issue of The Gun List  (now Gun Digest the Magazine) since it's first small issues in the early 1980s (as well as The Shotgun News before that). All items are photographed. To view them just click the text of the item you want to see. Be sure to scroll down as most items have more than one photo.  All guns are sold as collector's items, not shooters.  If you wish to shoot an item listed here, it is strongly recommended that you have the item checked out by a competent gunsmith who specializes in antique firearms. All items are sold with the usual three (3) day inspection.  If for any reason you are not satisfied with your purchase, call to say you are returning the item and you will receive an immediate refund when the item is received back in the same condition it was originally shipped. This list will be constantly updated as new items become available.  Use the above phone number to call to check availability and for further info on any item you wish to purchase. Prices do not include shipping. All federal/state laws concerning the transfer of firearms are strictly followed.  Modern firearms must be shipped to an FFL dealer (or "Curio & Relics" license holders where applicable).  Pre-1899 antiques may be shipped to non-FFL holders. All Layaway sales are final.      

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NOTES FROM THE FIELD:  AFTER YEARS OF WANTING TO, I'VE FINALLY DONE IT!

     I've written a novel!  I've had the idea for a number of years and decided if I didn't write it now, it'd never happen.  Much of it was written very, very early in the mornings before the phone starts ringing and I start packing guns for UPS.  And a lot of it was written on planes or while hanging around airports going to-and-from gun shows.  Anyway, it's been published and is available on Amazon.com in standard print book or you can download it as an e-book.  It's called DESERT SUNDAYS and, of course, I'm listed as the author, William T. Goodman.  You can find out more about it - synopsis, about the author etc.- by going to: www.williamtgoodman.com  Yes, there are guns and knives and some hunting in the novel (how could there not be?) and I promise you IT IS ACCURATELY PORTRAYED!  Nothing worse than reading a novel where guns are used or discussed and everything is wrong- like one I read that took place in the 1940s and the bad guy used a Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 magnum revolver- except the .44 mag. caliber wasn't even invented yet... or one in which a young hunter looks through the scope on a bolt action .270 and the author writes "...he put his eye to the scope. The eyepiece felt clammy against his skin." OUCH!  Man, this author obviously never fired a high powered rifle! Anyway, you won't read anything like that from me.  Also, there is a great scene in the novel in which one of my main characters takes on a whole room of anti-gun college professors at a wine and cheese party- let's just say he shocks some sense into them. Since you are on this website, I know you'll like that part.  But seriously, it's NOT a gun/hunting/guy novel.  And I have to warn any potential readers, there is seriously graphic adult content in parts of the book.  So, check out DESERT SUNDAYS by William T. Goodman on Amazon.com.  If you buy it and like it (or don't like it), I'd like to hear your comments.  And please, pass the word around.  Novel number two is already in the works!  Thanks for your support.  Bill Goodman

ADDITIONAL NOTE ABOUT ABOVE (3/23/14): If you ordered or downloaded a book, there was a printing glitch in the very first batch- just some minor line errors & typos mainly in chapter 1 and the margins weren't set properly. The text was okay so it'll read fine.  Sorry about this.  Problem has been fixed.  Thanks for your understanding.

 

 

 

 

COLT FIRE ARMS (click text for photo

  1. EARLY SINGLE ACTION ARMY .45 COLT, 4 ¾” #108XXX, MADE 1884,  this one come right out of here in Montana, overall it is a dark brown patina with traces of original nickel in the usual protected areas- around front sight and barrel top, butt, bottom and sides of trigger guard, top of hammer, back of cylinder etc., good markings including the correct two line barrel address, patent dates on frame getting worn, matching numbers, nice screws, needs ejector and housing, grips are an obvious later replacement but fit nicely, fine mech. With a couple hammer notches either worn or broken- cocks okay, but should be re-cut, fine+ bore, a little work and the value of this one will increase significantly!  (four photos)  $2150.

  2. BEAUTIFUL HIGH CONDITION SINGLE ACTION .38-40 CALIBER, 4 3/4" BARREL, MADE 1926, this one has seen very little use and retains nearly all the bright factory blue with only a tiny bit of thinning on the back strap, a small scuff on the front strap and barely a cylinder drag line, matching numbers including the grips, nice case colors that are silvering on the left side recoil shield, the loading gate and a bit on the top strap with the balance showing nice color, bright bore, tight action, correct two line barrel address on barrel top, just a super condition investment quality Single Action, $5200.

  3. OUTSTANDING SINGLE ACTION ARMY IN RARE .38 COLT CALIBER, 51/2” BARREL, FACTORY LETTER SHOWS SHIPMENT TO SCHINDEL, ROHRER AND CO.,  HAGERSTOWN, MARYLAND, JAN. 27, 1928 AS A 1 GUN SHIPMENT, overall beautiful deep blue with only some thinning on the back strap and a little on the front strap, slightest of edge wear only, nice case colors fading on the outer-most parts like the left recoil shield, loading gate and top strap sides, fairly vivid on the rest, near perfect grips are numbered to the gun’s other matching numbers, screws still show some good fire blue, exc. cylinder pin with most blue intact, tight action, bright bore, even the front of the cylinder face shows most of the blue indicating this gun was shot little if at all, rare caliber, interesting letter and all in truly investment quality and condition and priced realistically at  $5300. (4 photos)

  4. FINE CONDITION No. 2 DERRINGER, .41RF, ONLY 9000 MADE 1870-1890, a scarce early cartridge Colt that is rarely found with any finish remaining, this one much better than normally seen with fine aged blue mixing dull on the barrel, exc. markings and mech., uncleaned brown iron frame with nice simple factory engraving, exc. single screw, exc. checkered walnut grips, bore will clean about exc., #5XXX (Flayderman's Guide- last edition, now 7  years old- shows these in fine condition at $2000), my price $1695.

  5. NICE CONDITION No. 3 Derringer, .41 RF, MADE 1870-1912, this was Colt's most popular derringer with 48,000 being made yet good examples with original finish are hard to find as like most derringer/pocket pistols they were carried extensively and wore fast, this one is the more scarce full nickel and shows wear on the high edges of the frame sides with grip straps retaining all of the nickel, barrel also retains nearly all the nickel except for a thin wear line at the highest/sharpest edges and slightly at the muzzle, exc. screws and mech., exc. markings, nice walnut grips show good finish and only slight handling marks, good fire blue on the hammer back, exc. mech and the bore should scrub out fine or better, again, much better than normally seen, $795.

  6. HIGH CONDITION EARLY 1877 DOUBLE ACTION LIGHTNING REVOLVER, 38 COLT, 3 1/2" EJECTORLESS, NICKEL FINISH, MADE 1880, a particularly excellent example with sharp acid etched barrel and bright nickel overall with only minor spots of flaking in a few cylinder flutes and scattered around the frame- all minor, still some nice fire blue on the bottom back of the hammer, exc. screws and markings, exc. mech, matching serial numbers in the 19XXX range, exc. grips, $1795.

  7. VERY HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT  MODEL 1900 .38 AUTOMATIC PISTOL!  This one is serial number 36 and is one of the lowest numbers known to still exist.  According to COLT’S .38 AUTOMATIC PISTOLS book by Douglas Sheldon, the following numbers are known: 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 25, 33, 34, 45, 51 etc. He lists sixteen numbers below one hundred. This one makes seventeen.  A Colt factory letter shows #36 was shipped in May of 1900 (first 60 days of production) to Hibbard, Spencer Bartlett Co., Chicago, IL.  Interestingly, there were ten of these in the shipment.  So, basically, this is the grandfather of ALL U.S. made auto pistols!  With a number this low it is the equivalent of an iron frame Henry rifle, a Colt Walker or a “pinched frame” first production Colt Single Action Army.  This pistol turned up at a small Montana gun show.  I wish I knew more about it.  That’s all the good news.  The bad news is that I got this gun in a bag!  Someone took it apart and couldn’t or didn’t bother to put it back together.  I’ve done nothing with it since receiving it.  I can say it appears all the main parts are present- slide, frame, hammer, trigger, pins, grips, wedge etc. but some minor parts may be missing- I really don’t know.  The Magazine is of a later type as it doesn’t have the patent dates on the bottom but it fits correctly.  The barrel, which is numbered 36 (as is the slide) appears to have had the last inch or so broken off- that’s hard to figure.  I’m pretty sure if parts are missing, they are minor and I would think parts from the more common later Model 1902 would fit.  Overall metal on frame and slide is dark and worn with some scattered pitting mainly on the slide.  Markings are legible on the slide.  The sight safety shows the typical Colt factory alteration to the later style of dovetailed rear sight and has the little VP proof mark in the left trigger guard side showing it had been returned for this alteration.  The firing pin is still in the slide and the correct convex plug and spring are still in the frame.  Front sight has not been altered.  It shouldn’t be too hard to put this one back together.  I’m not big on restorations, but this one might be a good candidate for a first rate Doug Turnbull restoration.  The folks at Colt were pretty excited about lettering this one as it is truly an important piece of Colt (and all automatic pistol) history.  $2250.

  8. FINE CONDITION MODEL 1902 MILITARY AUTO PISTOL, .38 ACP CALIBER, SHIPPED TO STANDART BROTHERS HARDWARE, DETROIT, MICHIGAN, JANUARY 2, 1915, (this info found in the serial number listings of some of this model in the back of William Goddard's excellent book, The Government Models). fine bright blue on the receiver sides and bottom, grip straps aged to a plum brown with some gray mixing on the front strap, correct magazine marked "CAL 38" over "COLT" in correct high polish finish, fine blue on slide that is aging and mixing dull mostly on the left side with bright blue slightly thinning in protected areas and on top, right side thinning a little also, exc. markings, exc.+ grips, lanyard ring intact, bright sharp bore, tight action, classic long slide early Colt auto in nice condition, $1895.

                            

 

MARLIN  (click text for photos)

1) VERY RARE MODEL 1888, .32WCF, 24" OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1889, only a total of 4,814 of this model was made between 1888 and 1889 and of these only 1,298 were made in .32-20 caliber making it the least produced caliber for this model, fine aged barrel blue mixing plum as is the mag tube, receiver blue turned a very dark brown with good blue on the loading gate, , original sights, tight action, bore shows good rifling but has scattered roughness, stock may have been lightly gone over at some time and has had a sliver replaced in the right top of the forearm, overall nice appearance, very seldom seen Marlin and most I've encountered have seen very hard frontier usage, $1495.

2) BEAUTIFUL VIVID CASE COLORS ON THIS HIGH CONDITION 1894 .32-20 ROUND BARREL RIFLE, MADE 1907, really spectacular case color especially on the left side and top of receiver, right side just slightly less vivid, nice blue on bolt, good color on upper part of lever, fine deep blue on barrel and mag showing just minor age, fine blue on forend cap, Marbles tang sight with original buckhorn and Rocky Mountain blade front sight, exc. wood with two exceptions: first, some very very light initials scratched barely through the finish on the left side of the stock- hard to notice and easily rubbed out if desired and second there is an almost invisible age or stress crack coming back from the upper back of the tang and going to the butt plate on both sides- looks like the grain of the wood and is solid and never reinforced- I owned this rifle for some time before even noticing these two things- bore should clean out about exc., screws look about untouched, a stunning Marlin, $2450.

3) VERY EARLY AND VERY RARE MODEL 27 (NOT 27-S) PUMP ACTION OCTAGON RIFLE IN .25-20 CALIBER, according to the Marlin book by Madis, this model was introduced in 1909 and in 1910 an improvement was made to the action which changed the name to Model 27-S, that being the case, this must be one of the very first of this model to be made as the tang marking is "Marlin" over "No. 27" with no "S" as on later ones, sharp condition overall with exc. barrel blue showing the most minor amount of high edge wear, fine blue on the mag tube with some thinning/mixing brown on the bottom, fine bright receiver blue on the sides and top with bottom of receiver, tangs and edges mixing brown/gray from normal handling, exc. wood, original sights, bright bore, $1395.

 

                A NOTE ABOUT "MODERN MARLINS": Marlin has closed its doors for good in North Haven, Connecticut and been bought out by the folks who own Remington. It looks like some models have been put back into production with the barrels marked "Utica, New York."  I did see one of the new ones with the old North Haven barrel address so I assume they had left over barrels they were using up.  Quality in wood  to metal fit was fair at best and trigger pulls were off the scale heavy!  I doubt if any of the octagon barrel "cowboy models" will be produced again, although their online catalogue does show a model 1894 cowboy-type with octagon barrel in .45 Colt caliber only. I believe these traditional Marlins made in limited runs in North Haven, CT are going to be tomorrow's sought after Marlins.  Already prices for them are escalating rapidly.

4) RARE "MODERN" MARLIN MODEL 336CB COWBOY 24" OCTAGON RIFLE IN .38-55 CALIBER, now discontinued an with Marlin being bought out by Remington, probably never to be made again, this was a limited run and few are found for sale now, fancy checkered with traditional diamond in the middle of the wrist and forearm, Marbles tang sight and globe front with apertures, original barrel sights included, very lightly used, $1150. SOLD) YET ANOTHER SCARCE "MODERN" MARLIN VARIANT: 1895 .45-70 COWBOY WITH 26" OCTAGON BARREL, this one is flat new, unfired in the original box and still even has the Marlin tag on the lever and all paperwork in the box with serial numbered end label!  $1195. SOLD

5) LIMITED PRODUCTION AND VERY RARE 1895 .45-70 24” HALF OCTAGON BARREL FULL MAGAZINE RIFLE, the barrel is stamped “1895 LTD” and these were made some years ago in one small run, I don’t believe I’ve seen another, about new condition overall, $1195. SOLD

6) MODEL 1894S .44 MAG. OR SPECIAL, this is the carbine with the diamond checkered wrist and forend, has quick detachable swivel studs, about like new, $795. SOLD

7) MODEL 1894CB "COWBOY LIMITED" IN .44 MAGNUM AND SPECIAL, 20" OCTAGON BARREL, a little nicer than standard wood usually seen, very hard to find and like new, $1195. SOLD

8)  VERY RARE 1895 LTD-III .45-70 WITH 18 ½ INCH OCTAGON BARREL AND FULL MAGAZINE!       This is the first one of these I’ve seen.  Apparently they made the LTD series from I to V (5) for Davidsons Distributors I believe in the 1980s to 1990s.  One Thousand of these were supposedly made in 1999 ony,  but this is the first one I’ve seen or even heard of, I would bet a lot less than one thousand were made!  It is in very lightly used condition (near new) with a blued screw going into the right side where the cross bolt safety is, I believe these "filler kits" are sold through Brownell's, the cross bolt can be seen on the left side, but there is no movement in it and it does not protrude.  I imagine it would be easy enough to return to the normal cross bolt if one wanted to, also has a Redfield receiver sight with the normal Marlin folding buckhorn rear sight and blade/bead front, this model had the normal or “Ballard” style rifling as opposed to the regular Micro-groove rifling normally used- these are better for cast bullet shooting, a very rare Marlin that should appreciate in value over the years to come, $1195. SOLD

9) ONE OF THE RAREST AND HARDEST TO FIND OF THE “MODERN MARLINS” IS THIS 20” OCTAGON .44 MAGNUM MADE FOR ONE YEAR ONLY IN 1973!  According to the Marlin book 2,957 of these pre-safety Marlins were made, yet in over 25 years of searching I’ve only come across a small handful, which leads me to believe  lot fewer than this number were ever produced, this one has seen light use and aside from a few very, very light handling marks in the wood, looks near new, I don’t think I’ve ever offered one of these before! (note: marks on bottom photo of receiver is light reflection off oil) $1295.  SOLD

10) JUST IN: MODEL 444S (.444 MARLIN CALIBER), MADE 1971-1983, PRE-SAFETY, this one has unusual fairly fancy walnut in the butt stock and is all correct including the factory sling swivel studs, and Marlin marked recoil pad, about like new overall, a very hard to find model, (NOTE: what looks like edge wear is just photo light reflection) $895.

11) JUST IN: MODEL 1894CB "COWBOY LIMITED" .44 SPECIAL AND .44 MAGNUM WITH 24" OCTAGON BARREL AND CHECKERED STOCK AND FOREARM, these have Ballard Rifling instead of Micro-Groove, very hard to find now, about like new, $1195.

12) JUST IN: VERY HARD TO FIND PRE-SAFETY 1894 IN .357 MAGNUM CALIBER, AND FANCIER THAN STANDARD WALNUT! All in near new condition, $995.

13) JUST IN: EARLY, FIRST TYPE RE-INTRODUCTION MODEL 1895.45-70, this is the one introduced in 1972 and only made until 1979, it has the straight stock with square lever and 2/3 magazine, rarely seen now, haven't been made in 35 years!  This one is near new overall, $895.

 

 

ANTIQUE & CLASSIC RIFLES, SHOTGUNS AND PISTOLS (click text for photos) 

 

  1. WONDERFUL, NEVER CLEANED, ATTIC CONDITION RARE SIX SHOT DRAGOON SIZE ALLEN PEPPERBOX, .36 CALIBER 6" BARRELS, MADE LATE 1830's TO MID-1840s.  Has the early "Dog Leg" sharp angle walnut grips with silver ovals, engraved frame and nipple shield, early fluted ribbed barrels, overall deep brown patina with ancient uncleaned inactive surface rust/crud that is ON the metal as opposed to "IN" the metal.  I believe a good, long oil soak would remove most of it, fine grips, action works fine, these big holster size pepperboxes were very popular with the gold rush 49ers in California as well as many seeing use on the frontier and later in the Civil War.  These dragoon size ones are hard to find and this one is really untouched with a great look and feel!  $1195.
  2. GREAT OFFERING! CLASSIC CUSTOM VARMINTER BY LEONARD & HYDE, NEW YORK, .257 ROBERTS CALIBER, MAUSER 98 ACTION, 27" MEDIUM HEAVY VARMINT BARREL, 12X UNERTL SCOPE AND MOUNTS.  Here's what I found on the internet: George J. Hyde Sr. (born "Heide") was a German-born American machinist, gunsmith and gun designer best known for his submachine guns. He was born in Arpfingen, Germany on January 4, 1888. Already a skilled machinist, he emigrated to the United States in 1927. His family followed, the next year. Before 1935 George J. Hyde was a machinist and shop foreman at Griffin & Howe.[1] He quit Griffin & Howe and went on to become the co-owner of Leonard & Hyde in New York. He partnered with Samuel A. "Harry" Leonard, an expert shotgun and rifle stock maker, who had trained at James Purdy & Sons of London. Hyde also did contract gunsmithing work for Roberts and Kimball in Woburn, Massachusetts. (The latter was an early semi-custom maker of rifles chambered in .257 Roberts.) So what we've got here is the shop foreman for Griffin & Howe teaming up with an expert stock maker from Purdy in England and building rifles with influence from Ned Roberts and his "new" .257 Roberts Caliber!  It should also be known that Hyde is the inventor of the famed M-3 Grease Gun  and the unusual .45ACP Liberator pistol of World War II (among other inventions and patents).  The rifle is near mint with classic straight grained select grade English Walnut stock, cheek piece with shadow/accent line, fine checkering on forend and pistol grip, fully machine turned action and magazine follower, custom altered Mauser safety with checkered up-down tab for scope use, no dovetails for iron sights and no cut in the stock for any receiver sight- this one was made for this scope, one really outstanding touch is the butt plate treatment- there is an inletted stylized steel heel and toe plate with checkered walnut in the center- a true class act and one that would cost a fortune today, swivel studs are set into small oval ebony inlays, barrel marked "No. 1937 Leonard & Hyde, New York,"  silver initial plate in stock bottom, exc. optics in scope, finely checkered bolt handle, beautiful and graceful stock design around the action and floor plate, weighs about 11 1/4 lbs., like getting a rifle built by Griffin & Howe, stocked by Purdy, influenced and chambered by Ned Roberts and scoped by Unertl!  A custom rifle of this quality would cost a fortune today and not many gunsmiths could even do this kind of work! Superb condition overall.  $3250. (click underlined text for 3 photos )

  3. INTERESTING AND UNUSUAL CONNECTICUT ARMS HAMMOND PATENT SINGLE SHOT "BULLDOG" .44RF PISTOL IN VERY RARE NICKEL FINISH, MADE 1866-1880s, only about 8,000 of these big caliber guns were made and nearly all were blued, Flayderman's Guide says "a few known with original nickel finish..."  I've encountered only a very few in nickel over the years and this is one of the best, fine nickel with wear to brown around the high parts of the breech block left side and bottom and around the right side of the trigger and around the muzzle of the barrel- looks like this one might have been carried in a holster, still good nickel on most of the grip straps and barrel and left side of frame, exc. hard rubber "gutta percha" grips, exc. mech, bore will clean fine or better, a relatively big early cartridge derringer/pocket pistol in a rare finish in nice condition (Flayderman's latest edition- now 7 years out of date- lists these in exc. condition with standard blue finish at $1500), I have this one priced at $1395.

  4. BERETTA MODEL 1934 .380 AUTO PISTOL WITH ITALIAN ARMY PROOFS MADE 1938, lots of World War II history in this one! Fine blue overall with minor thinning/ageing on the slide and edges, exc. original grips, matching numbers, tight action, exc. inside, $495.

  5. PARTICULARLY FINE WORLD WAR II WALTHER P.38 MARKED "AC 43" INDICATING WALTHER MANUFACTURE DURING 1943, all matching numbers, fine blue overall with just normal light wear to the front strap and a little on the bottom of the trigger guard, exc. action, exc. bore, exc. correct magazine unaltered, fine brown grips show light wear only, correct proofs and Nazi markings, one of the better ones I've seen in a while, these are still bargains, but rapidly going up in value (as are all WWII guns), still cheap at $895.

  6. GREAT ODDITY! PERCUSSION  "ANTI-GARROTING" BELT-BUCKLE GUN! These are described in the book FIREARMS CURIOSA by Lewis Winant (now out of print, but I’ll copy the pertinent pages with text and photos with the gun), “How the percussion cap belt pistol, figures 170 and 171, operates may be seen at a glance.  The oval iron plate is about 7” long, and the pistol barrel protrudes about 1 ½”.  In this gun the cord runs from the lock through a channel in the belt for a foot or more, before being carried up to the shoulder and down through a coat sleeve.  A man ordered to put up his hands can grasp the weight and tighten he string as he raises his arms.  A belt pistol such as this had no appeal as a work or art and it was unlikely to be treasured because of its history or associations.  Once obsolete it was neglected, then discarded, soon it was rotted leather and scrap metal.  Now this belt pistol is a scarce collector item.”  That sums it up pretty well, aged brown patina, functions fine, $895.

  7. EARLY BROWN MANUFACTURING "SOUTHERNER" .41 RF SCARCE IRON FRAME DERRINGER, #4XXX WITH 1867 PATENT DATE, MADE 1869, a really fine example with what I believe is a full silver plate finish (looks too dull to be nickel and many were silvered), barrel finish thinning somewhat and aged to an attractive silver/gray, frame retains good silver with some thinning/ageing on the edges and grip straps all of which blends beautifully, sharp markings including the classic "SOUTHERNER" marking on the barrel top, exc. mech, exc. highly finished rosewood grips, bore will clean exc., rare variation and really sharp example of one of the earliest and most popular cartridge derringers usually found in hard used/hard carried condition, this is a nice one and priced attractively at (looks much better in person as photo lights exaggerate any minor spots- all of which blend in well) $995.

  8. FIRST I’VE EVER SEEN OR EVEN HEARD OF!! HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON AUTO EJECT REVOLVER WITH KNIFE ATTACHMENT OR  “AUTOMATIC BAYONET REVOLVER”… BUT WAIT, THIS ONE IS CHAMBERED FOR THE .32 SMITH & WESSON CARTRIDGE AND IS IN BLUE FINISH!  To quote Flayderman’s Guide- about the only source on these- “Made only in .38CF according to their 1902 advertising. Made c.1901 to 1917.  Estimated quantity 2,000…”  These are really scarce items with great appeal and, of course, every one I’ve seen has been .38 caliber and almost all in nickel finish- blue is super rare.  So, if the 1902 advertising says they are only in .38, and they started making them in 1901 perhaps they made a few in .32 that first year- I have no other ideas.  The frame is clearly marked “AUTO EJECTING 32 S&W CTGE”   Condition is really sharp with nice blue overall with normal age and wear to the back strap and bottom of trigger guard, some ageing on the barrel sides and cylinder edges, even the front strap has nice blue!  Dagger blade has not been sharpened or chipped, spring that holds it under the barrel is still strong, bright exc. bore, exc. mech.  Exc. grips, an incredible find! $2150.

     

     

     

 

TWO RARE PERCUSSION ANIMAL TRAP GUNS FROM THE SAME COLLECTION:

1. FIRST OF THESE I'VE EVER SEEN ASIDE FROM A FEW PICTURES IN BOOKS!  NORTH & COUCH HAND HELD AND ANIMAL TRAP SIX SHOT PEPPERBOX, PATENTED 1859, MADE IN VERY LIMITED QUANTITIES IN THE 1860s,  to quote Flayderman's Guide (last edition which is now 7 years old): Designed primarily as an animal trap gun to be suspended from a tree limb or staked to the ground, these pistols could also be fired in the conventional manner when hand held.  ...there is a single nipple which fires all six barrels simultaneously. When used as a trap gun, a trip cord tied to a rod in the center of the barrel cluster acts as trigger.   Fine condition $2250. This one is in remarkable condition with no rust or pitting, wood grips show normal handling only, functions perfectly,  serial number 80, usually any animal trap guns are well rusted and pitted from days  left unattended in the woods.  This was an amazing find! $2350. SOLD

2. F. REUTHE DOUBLE BARREL ANIMAL TRAP GUN, MADE LATE 1850s TO EARLY 1860s, to quote Flayderman's Guide again: These novel arms of heavy all cast iron construction were designed solely as an animal trap gun... The principle of operation on all models is identical with two long barbed arrow-like devices protruding from between the barrels which acted as the triggering device.  Bait was affixed to these barbs and when animal tugged upon it, the arm discharged. Fine condition $1500.  Outstanding condition with most of the original black enamel finish remaining with normal flaking on the high edges.  Often these were supplied with iron rods in the rear ring for attaching to a stake or tree- this one doesn't appear to have ever had one as the black enamel is still intact on the main parts of the inside and outside of this ring, again, like the above item, when these trap guns are encountered they are usually in rusted/pitted condition from being left outside in the woods, one of the best I've seen!  $1500.

 

 

 

 REMINGTON (click text for photos)

1)VERY UNUSUAL ROLLINGBLOCK TWO BAND MILITARY MUSKET IN DESIRABLE .50-70 CALIBER WITH FULL FACTORY NICKEL FINISH, this is the third one of these I’ve seen in about 20 years and all I’ve seen were in hard-used condition, this is the best condition one, There are no foreign proofs or markings and also no U.S. markings indicating that this was a commercial model sold in the United States as this cartridge wasn’t available any place else- except maybe Mexico, I have a copy of a the 1877 Remington catalogue that shows a similar rifle called “United States Model caliber .50” yet is shows a photo of a three band musket with 32 ½” barrel while this one has two bands and a 30 ½” barrel, nickel plating was very common on the “Baby Carbine” in .44-40 caliber and it’s my opinion this was just a civilian version that shooters wanted in nickel finish as black powder fouling cleaned off easier than blue, this was especially popular in the early southwest and Mexico, fine attractive aged nickel on the barrel and receiver with some flaking/browning on the bottom of the receiver and trigger guard, hammer and high edges of the butt plate, minor peeling/browning at the muzzle, original sights (small slide missing from rear sight- should be easy to replace), needs cleaning rod only,  fine wood with a small sliver out of the left side of the forend by the receiver, fine bore will clean near excellent, a rare American frontier variation in a great caliber! $1295.

2) VERY HARD TO FIND MODEL 1899 LEE MILITARY RIFLE FROM THE FIRST MICHIGAN NATIONAL GUARD CONTRACT OF 1898 (yes, I know it is called the Model 1899 and yes, regardless of the model designation, these were shipped to the state of Michigan in 1898 making this a pre-1899 antique!) Caliber 30 U.S. or .30-40 Krag, since these rarely seem to show up for sale or at shows, it is my opinion that they were probably sold as surplus out of the country- probably to Latin America or Cuba sometime before World War I- for the number made, they are very difficult to locate, this is a really fine example with generally excellent wood with only normal light handling/storage marks, fine aged blue throughout, original handguard intact, original military sights, cleaning rod, bore needs a good scrubbing and should clean out about exc., correct magazine, mag and trigger guard turning gray/brown, tight action, top of barrel marked "30 U.S.A." correct swivels intact, I actually own one of these that was cut down and "sporterized" that I shoot with cast bullets- lots of fun and accurate too, this last of the Remington Lee models is the only "smokeless cartridge" model and is more difficult to find than the earlier .45-70 U.S. Army and Navy models, a particularly fine example! $2250.

3) RARE MODEL 1901 ROLLING BLOCK TARGET PISTOL IN SCARCE AND DESIRABLE .44 RUSSIAN CALIBER!  Remington made less than 750 of these fine pistols and most seem to have been in the small rim fire calibers, exc. correctly checkered stock and forend, exc. barrel blue showing one or two very tiny spots where some rust was wiped off- you have to look carefully to see it, fine high polish receiver, trigger guard and grip strap blue with some scattered brown freckling, exc. blue on hammer and breech block, nice screws, exc. markings, tight action, correct original rear target sight in the receiver ring with half-moon and ivory bead front sight,  bright exc. bore! $3250.

4) ONE OF THE BETTER LITTLE MODEL 6 .22LR SINGLE SHOT BOY'S RIFLES I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME, this one is complete with the little sheet steel tang sight which was something like a fifty cent option at the time and are not usually found intact on these, vivid case color on both sides of the receiver, fine deep barrel blue showing light age only, exc. markings, exc. wood, correct Remington UMC marked steel butt plate and best of all has a bore that should clean out about exc.- bores on these usually terrible- original fixed sights, $695.

5) MODEL 25, 25-20 CALIBER PUMP ACTION RIFLE, most of these saw lots of farm and ranch use, this is better than most I see, fine deep blue on the receiver with only a little browning on the bottom of the trigger guard and some very light edge wear, barrel and mag show fine blue with some ageing and minor handling only, exc. wood with correct crescent butt plate, original buckhorn rear sight with blade/bead front sight, tight action and excellent bore, these are getting really hard to find, $1150.

 

RUGER (click text for photos)

1) EARLY FLAT TOP .44 MAGNUM BLACKHAWK, 6 1/2" BARREL, #20XXX, MADE 1959, getting difficult to find especially in exc. condition, this one has seen very little use and retains nearly all the original blue and  “black” on the grip straps, light cylinder line and a tiny spot on the back strap and butt are about all the wear this one shows, exc. grips, exc. inside sand out, rapidly increasing in value,  $1150. ``

 

SAVAGE FIREARMS (click text for photos)

1) EXCEEDINGLY RARE HIGH CONDITION FIRST MODEL/FIRST TYPE  1907 .32 AUTO PISTOL, #62XX, WITH FACTORY CHECKERED STEEL GRIPS, MADE 1909, only the first 10,000 had the steel grips, superb condition with nearly all the bright factory blue remaining with only minor high edge wear, even the grip straps retain nearly all the original blue, nice case colors on trigger, hard to find in any condition, this is the best I've ever seen! $795.

2) ANOTHER RARE SAVAGE AUTO PISTOL: MODEL 1907 .380, only 9,849 of these were made with 8,000 made between 1913-1915 and another 1,849 made 1919-1920, this one is in the 9XXX range and made between 1913-1915, fine blue overall with some normal thinning on the barrel sides and grip straps, still some good case color on the trigger, tight action, bright exc. bore, $575.

3) MODEL 1917 .380 AUTO PISTOL, scarce item as only as only about 14,000 of these were made between 1920 and 1928, this is an early production example probably made first year, overall a solid gun that has seen use and carry, overall aged blue mixing plum/brown, never cleaned or steel-wooled, grips show wear but complete, correct magazine, exc. markings, tight action, exc. bore, $475.

4) HIGH CONDITION MODEL 1917 .380 AUTO PISTOL, like above but retains about all the original blue, you'd have to look hard to find a touch of freckling or wear, one tiny "flake" on the left grip bottom edge that doesn't go all the way through the grip, very hard to find like this, (note: photo light reflection makes the blue look brown- it is deep factory blue) $595.

 

 

 

SHILOH  SHARPS AND OTHER REPRODUCTIONS (click text for photos)

NOTE:  I am also a Shiloh Sharps dealer.  In fact, I am the only stocking dealer of Shiloh Sharps rifles.  I frequently have a selection of NIB stock on hand for immediate delivery AT CATALOGUE PRICE WITH NO ADDITIONAL PREMIUMS OR FEES!  For further info and lists of available rifles, see my other website,  www.shiloh-ballard.com  

 

1) SHILOH SHARPS, MADE IN BIG TIMBER, MONTANA, No. 3 SPORTING RIFLE WIN .40-70 SHARPS STRAIGHT CALIBER (.40 2.5" CASE), 28" standard half octagon barrel with traditional Hartford Collar, nice deep reddish brown straight grain walnut stock and forend with a little contrasting figure in the stock, globe pinhead front sight with Lyman style tang sight fully adjustable for windage and elevation, Lawrence style ladder barrel sight, all near new condition, weighs 9 1/2 pounds, should make a fine hunting rifle, $2150.

2) SHILOH SHARPS, EARLY FARMINGDALE, NEW YORK MANUFACTURED 1863 .54 CALIBER PERCUSSION SADDLE RING CARBINE, serial number in the 1XXX range and marked "Shiloh Products Inc." this one is in like new condition overall, Shiloh no longer catalogues these percussion models which is too bad as I'm a real fan of them and have been shooting percussion Shilohs since 1979! Lots of power and fun and surprisingly accurate too.  I wrote an article about shooting the Shiloh 1863 Sporting Models for the Spring 2010 issue of BLACK POWDER CARTRIDGE RIFLE magazine and in that article I wrote about shooting five shots with each of my two Shiloh Sporting rifles with MVA target sights (one .38 caliber and one .50 caliber) into 1 1/4 inch groups at 100 yards.  This one is priced at $1595.

3) JONATHAN BROWNING MOUNTAIN RIFLE, .50 CALIBER PERCUSSION, AND RARE IRON MOUNTED, these are becoming more and more hard to find, as I always say, I’ve had one since the late 1970s and mine is not for sale, one of the best Plains-Type or Hawken rifles produced and made in the U.S.A.  Single set trigger, browned barrel and furniture, nice straight grained walnut stock with cheek piece, original sights, this one has seen very light use only, $895.  SOLD

 

 

 

SMITH AND WESSON (click text for photos)

1) EARLY .38/44 OUTDOORSMAN TARGET MODEL OF 1950 "PRE-MODEL 23" .38 SPECIAL CALIBER,  5 SCREW "N" FRAME, MADE 1952-1953, ONLY 6,039 MADE 1950-1966, one of the more scarce and desirable post-war S&Ws, excellent inside and out with only a tiny amount of blue wear at each side of the muzzle and a light cylinder drag line, exc. diamond checkered magna walnut grips, nice case color on the hammer and trigger, great action/trigger, target sights, rapidly appreciating in value, (note: any blemishes or "dots" or "plum coloration" in the photos is just photo light reflection on oil or glare- this gun has great even blue overall!)  $1195.

2) MODEL 1905 .32-20 HAND EJECTOR, THIRD ISSUE, 6 1/2" BARREL, BRIGHT BLUE FINISH, WALNUT GRIPS, MADE 1909, excellent example of a hard to find S&W showing nearly all the original bright blue finish with only some light edge wear and a small scuff/scratch or two, exc. walnut grips with deep dish gold S&W medallions are numbered to the gun, all matching numbers, bright case colors on hammer and trigger, perfect bore, tight action- these early actions were all hand fitted and polished and are truly wonderful!  Most of these early .32-20s saw hard field use and this is one of the nicer ones I've seen in a while, (note: lots of photo light glare and reflection- just go by my written description)  $795.

 

 

U.S. MILITARY AND SPRINGFIELD (click text for photos)

1) 1879 TRAPDOOR .45-70 SADDLE RING CARBINE, MADE 1881, classic Indian Wars carbine with correct “C” marked rear sight with early slotless screws, stock shows fairly heavy cavalry/frontier use with real sling/saddle ring wear, the wear is right where the cartouche would be, so there is no cartouche, but a worn circle P cartouche is visible behind the lower tang, stock shows handling, dings and saddle wear, one fairly neatly chip has been replaced on the left side by the upper tang- a common spot for chips, metal is a deep patina, fine+ bore should scrub out to be near exc., lots of history and stories in this one! Fine appearance, $1195.``

2) 1879 TRAPDOOR SPRINGFIELD RIFLE, #359XXX, has a fine cartouche in the stock, 1873 dated breech block with 1879 rifle rear sight, generally excellent wood with only minor handling marks, fine blue on the trigger guard, still retains a little light case color on the upper tang, barrel blue aged to an even plum, tight action with exc. markings, excellent bright bore with cleaning rod and swivels intact, nice example, $895.

3) REMINGTON 1899 LEE, MICHIGAN NATIONAL GUARD, .30-40 KRAG CALIBER (see above in Remington section)

 

 

WINCHESTERS (click text for photos) .

  1. SPECIAL ORDER 1873 .32-20 OCTAGON RIFLE WITH SHOTGUN BUTT, MADE 1889, overall fine appearance, aged dark receiver and barrel with exc. markings, original dust cover, mellow brass lifter, fine screws (mag. screw a replacement), original sights, exc. butt stock with correct smooth steel shotgun butt plate and tight wood to metal fit, fine forearm with thin age crack beginning  to come back from the forend cap on the right side for a couple inches- minor, has some evidence of light surface rust that was wiped off (not buffed or steel wooled) mainly on the mag tube bottom and a little around the lever- you have to look for this to find it and it really blends in and isn't a problem, bore is a bit dark with strong rifling and ought to scrub out fine+ or better, tight action, attractive special order early 1873 rifle! $1695.
  2. SPECIAL ORDER EARLY 1873 2ND. MODEL .44-40 WITH EXTRA LONG 30” OCTAGON BARREL AND FULL MAGAZINE, MADE 1882, aside from the 6” longer than standard barrel, this is one of the 2nd. Model rifles made using carbine receivers- easy to tell as it has two factory filler screws where the saddle ring staple would normally go, this was fairly common in 2nd. Models for some reason, good aged and thinning barrel blue, mostly gray/brown receiver and mag tube, nice blue on the loading gate, mellow uncleaned brass lifter, fine wood shows normal handling only with some light saddle wear on the forearm, action a little sticky but works okay, dust cover intact, VG bore is dark and may clean better, butt plate hasn’t got the trap for cleaning rod so it was either special ordered that way or is a replacement (.32-20 1873s don’t have trapdoors in their butt plates), the stock is drilled for a cleaning rod compartment, scarce early 1873, $2850.

  3. PARTICULARLY FINE CONDITION LATER MODEL 1873 .32-20 OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1909, exc. deep barrel and magazine blue, receiver blue mixing/ageing an uncleaned and very attractive soft plum and brown with better blue in protected areas, original dust cover, un-dented brass lifter engraved with caliber, exc. markings, exc. screws, exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit, bore shows some crud in the grooves only that I think is probably some leading as the lands appear fine- I ran a brush and patch through it and black came out (not rust) so it should scrub out to fine+ or even better, original sights, really a nice and attractive 1873 that should prove to be a fine investment for the future, (note: in photos the dark area on the stock is minor color difference that photo lights exaggerated), $2850.

  4. 1876 .45-60 CALIBER,  2ND MODEL OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1881, this rifle has a lot of appeal and I was drawn to it as soon as I saw it, receiver blue is uncleaned and aged/mixing with a fairly even and attractive plum with minor brown and good blue in protected areas, good barrel and mag blue ageing to plum also, exc. screws, original dust cover, Rocky Mountain blade fronts sight and period replacement buckhorn rear sight, exc. markings, fine forend, butt stock has a typical “horse roll-over” crack (see “Notes From the Field” at the very bottom of this website for a discussion on these cracks) from the upper tang all the way back near the butt plate and then forward to the lower tang which was frontier repaired with a screw to each side of the wrist and some tiny iron tacks further back.  Normally, this bothers me, but on this particular big Winchester it doesn’t as this was obviously a Western gun that saw real service and was repaired at the time and no doubt put right back into service!  Fine++ bore should scrub out near exc., tight action, uncleaned brass lifter marked “45-60.”  The stock could easily be replaced with a new repro one using the original butt plate and aged to match, but I like this one just as it is.  $3250.

  5. 1885 HIGHWALL IN SCARCE .38-56 WCF CALIBER, MADE 1889, only 610 Highwalls were made in this caliber, most people don’t realize the .38-56 is simply the 45-70 necked down to .38 caliber and is much more powerful than the common  .38-55 which actually only took about 42 grains of powder,  mottled aged brown receiver, tight action, aged barrel blue with some scattered evidence of light rust and mixing brown overall, fine bore should clean out even better, front sight blade made from old copper U.S. penny, buckhorn rear sight, 30” oct. No.3 weight barrel, fine walnut with tight wood to metal fit, name very lightly scratched and worn in behind lower tang- easily rubbed out or just left as is- hardly noticeable, small crack starting on left front of forend coming back for an inch or so- minor, these are getting hard to find especially in non-standard big calibers, $1795.

  6. FINE CONDITION 1886 .40-82 OCTAGON RIFLE WITH FANCY WALNUT!  MADE 1891, very sharp condition overall with fine deep barrel and mag blue showing the lightest of age only, receiver retains very light/cloudy case color with some more vivid color in protected areas- by the hammer, recesses in the receiver etc. (looks better than photos show), exc. bright bore, exc. blue on the bolt, original sights, exc. walnut with quite fancy grain! exc. screws, tight wood to metal fit, unfooled with and uncleaned, nice investment 1886.  $3495.

  7. 1886 .45-70 EXTRA LIGHT WEIGHT SOLID FRAME RIFLE, MADE 1905, exc. bright bore, Lyman half moon with ivory bead front sight, rear sight a later folding replacement, fine lightly aged barrel and mag blue, receiver mostly gray with some surface on-top-of-the-metal freckling, fine screws, exc. forend, butt stock appears to have been shortened 1/2 inch- only way to tell aside from measuring is the bottom of the butt plate has been taken up slightly to fit the toe of the stock- really minor, tight action, tight wood to metal fit, "NICKEL STEEL" marked barrel, $2450.

  8. 1886 EXTRA LIGHT WEIGHT TAKEDOWN RIFLE IN .33WCF CALIBER SHIPPED FIRST YEAR OF THE .33WCF IN AUGUST OF 1902, the Cody Museum info on this rifle lists it exactly as it is including the 1/2 magazine, takedown and shotgun butt with rubber butt plate, yet the barrel has the rare "MADE IN U.S.A." on the left side and "-MODEL 1886-" on the right side which is usually on later guns, plus the barrel has a Winchester proof mark which means it went back to the factory or left the factory after 1905.  My guess is that perhaps someone sent in the front half of this takedown rifle for a new barrel because of the markings, but who knows?  Also, the walnut is extremely dark in the forend and butt stock and obviously match, so as I said, the front half might have been sent in to Winchester for a repair or new barrel, regardless, it is all 100% Winchester and letters correctly, dark patina receiver has never been cleaned or steel-wooled, barrel blue aged and thinned, bore is bright, sharp and perfect! fine wood shows normal light handling with one very small chip by the middle of the upper tang on the right side (not a corner chip as usually seen), buckhorn rear sight with Marbles blade/ivory bead front sight, tight action and takedown, came out of here in Montana, super bore! $1795.

  9. 1886 .45-70 ROUND BARREL RIFLE, MADE 1891, this one came out of here in Montana and has a surprisingly bright bore with only some very light scattered surface roughness- all very minor, barrel and mag are an uncleaned dark plum patina, nice aged blue on the bolt and loading gate, receiver aged dark, tight action, exc. dark and uncleaned forend, similar butt stock with tight wood to metal fit does have a 1 1/2" long chip at the toe- old and worn in, should be easy to repair, has the desirable 1886 dated ladder rear sight with slide intact with original Winchester front sight, attractive rifle that hasn't been cleaned or messed with, plus a really nice bore! $2750.

  10. VERY EARLY SPECIAL ORDER 1886 .45-90, BRITISH PROOFED ROUND BARREL RIFLE WITH SHOTGUN BUTT, #4XXX, MADE 1887, almost all of the big caliber Winchesters with English proofs went to India or Africa and almost all have shotgun butts and round barrels, aside from exc. blue on the proof marked bolt,  overall metal is a gray brown with evidence of light rust that has been wiped off years ago during its time of use leaving a few small pits and general freckling- an obvious indication this saw tropical use- exc. wood and screws, original sights, correct smooth steel shotgun butt plate, bright bore will clean out to fine+ or better, tight action, lots of history and adventure in this one! $3150.

  11. 1886 .40-82 CALIBER OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1889, this one came out of right here in Montana, VG aged barrel and mag blue that shows age and is mixing with brown but never cleaned or scrubbed, original sights, bright blue on bolt, mostly silvered receiver, fine+ wood, VG bore has scattered roughness, tight action, good appearance, $2450.

  12. TRULY AMAZING 1890 FIND!!! SERIAL NUMBER 84, SOLID FRAME FIRST MODEL AND ONE OF ONLY 113 ACTUALLY MADE (AND SHIPPED) IN 1890!! According to the Winchester records this .22 Short caliber Model 1890 was serialized on the second day of serialization 12/9/90, received in the warehouse 12/18/90 and shipped 12/19/90!  This is the lowest number I've seen and certainly the only first year production I've seen.  The receiver only (not the bolt) has a very very old nickel finish that is worn and flaking to brown on the sides and bottom of the trigger guard- this nickel finish is not mentioned in the records so, judging by the age of the nickel,  it was probably applied soon after it left the factory- would not be difficult to remove altogether, possibly this was a gallery gun or even used by an exhibition shooter, bolt is a deep plum/brown, good aged barrel and mag blue mixing plum, fine forend with very old worn-in chip in rear left side, butt stock has a slight short crack (hard to see) coming back from the upper tang allowing for slight gaps around the upper tang, original gallery fixed rear sight with small Winchester blade front, exc. barrel markings, tang markings a little weaker from being filled with nickel, lower tang patent markings fine, as would be expected not much bore left, a lot of potential in this one or just leave it as it, either way one of the very few first year 1890s in existence! $3250.

  13. 1892 .38-40 OCTAGON RIFLE WITH BRIGHT MINTY BORE! MADE 1912, exc. blue on barrel and mag with scattered pin-prick rust spots mostly around the rear sight and for a few inches forward- probably from carrying with a sweaty or bloody hand- all minor, receiver mostly gray brown, exc. screws, nice blue on the loading gate, tight wood to metal fit, fine+ wood, original sights, tight action, amazing bore! $1495.

  14. INTERESTING 1892 44-40 SADDLE RING CARBINE, MARKED IN TINY LETTERING ON THE LEFT FRONT OF THE RECEIVER: “CARLOS RESETTI” OVER “26 RIVADAVIA BUENOS AIRES” MADE 1908, a quick Google search showed he was an arms dealer in Buenos Aires, Argentina at this time, good aged barrel and mag blue, receiver blue has turned an attractive dark plum patina, good screws, carbine sights (ladder needs the slide only), fine walnut stock and forend with one tiny crack just coming back from the upper tang on the right side- minor, fine bore with good rifling might clean better, lightly carved “brand” or symbol on left side of the stock toward the butt plate- meaning unknown but very shallow and does not detract, tight action, $2250.

  15. NICE CONDITION 1892 .25-20 ROUND BARREL RIFLE MADE 1927, generally exc. barrel and mag blue showing the most minor of age, fine receiver blue overall with some areas toward the front and bottom of the receiver where the blue is flaking to a dull plum color- typical of 1920s vintage Winchester receivers- usually this era receiver is flaked to silver and this is one of the better ones I've seen in a while, really attractive blue overall, untouched screws, exc. bright bore, original sights, exc. wood, tight action, sharp '92 overall with great appearance, $1695.

  16. THE RAREST 1892 VARIATION I'VE SEEN! FACTORY 32" OCTAGON BARREL WITH DOUBLE SET TRIGGERS AND CORRECT TWO MAGAZINE RETAINING BANDS! MADE 1907, longer than the standard 24" barrels were only offered until 1908 and according to the Winchester Handbook by Madis only 744 rifles had longer  than standard barrels- in my experience 26" seems to be the most common and even these are of course rare, this is the only 32" I've ever seen, barrels in all models over 30" (32"-36") were made with two magazine retaining bands, close coupled double set triggers are also rare, caliber .25-20, standard buckhorn rear sight with Beech folding globe front sight, mottled uncleaned gray/brown barrel and mag, mag tube has a few dents just ahead of the forend cap,  fine markings, receiver mostly gray with some replaced screws and one minor screw missing on the top left side of the receiver, set triggers function fine, fine wood, dark bore should clean out good to VG, tight action, Winchester couldn't have made more than a small handful of this barrel length! $4250.

  17. 1892 .32-20 OCTAGON RIFLE WITH LYMAN TANG SIGHT, MADE 1905, fairly bright exc. bore, fine slightly aged deep barrel and mag blue, fine blue on the left side of the receiver and bolt, right side shows a bit more blue wear to the forward part, nice blue on the loading gate, exc. screws, wood shows normal light handling only with tight wood to metal fit, rear sight removed (because of tang sight), tight action, attractive overall, $1695.

  18. EARLY 1892 .38-40 OCTAGON RIFLE,#23XXX MADE 1893, a nice uncleaned example with all metal surfaces an even plum color with only a little gray on the bottom and edges of the rec., generally exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit, buckhorn rear sight with small blade/bead front sight, bore slightly dark with sharp and ought to clean out about exc., $1795.

  19. UNUSUAL FACTORY MARKED "THE STINGER" (FOR A DEALER IN AUSTRALIA!) 1892 SPECIAL ORDER .32-20 OCTAGON RIFLE WITH HALF MAGAZINE, MADE C.1913, factory stamped on the barrel top with a "bee" or "hornet'  and next to that "THE  STINGER," fine plus bore is only a little dark and might clean to about exc., fine action, blue has aged to a deep aged brown patina overall with some good blue on the loading gate, fine wood with some honest saddle wear on the forearm and a tiny chip at the upper right juncture of the tang and receiver,  buckhorn rear sight with blade/bead front sight, I've seen a small number of these Australian Winchesters and all have been in very hard used and abused condition, this is one of the best I've seen, $1195.

  20. SPECIAL ORDER 1892 .32-20 ROUND BARREL RIFLE WITH HALF MAGAZINE, MADE 1911, aged barrel blue mixing heavily  with brown, exc. wood (maybe slightly higher than standard grade walnut as usually picked for special order rifles) with tight wood to metal fit, uncleaned aged gray/brown receiver with good blue on the loading gate and some evidence of some old wiped-off rust- NOT steel wooled- very minor and barely noticeable, bore will clean excellent, original sights, tight action, $1395.

  21. SUPER RARE CHECKERED PISTOL GRIP 1892 WITH EXTRA LONG 28” OCTAGON BARREL AND FULL MAGAZINE! .25-20, MADE 1901, everything checks out with the Winchester records at Cody, all pistol grip 1892s are really rare and one with a 28” barrel is amazingly so!  Aged and thinned barrel blue, mag tube mostly brown, original sights, uncleaned mostly brown receiver with some blue remaining on the loading gate, unusual that it has a crescent butt plate as most pistol grip guns have shotgun butt plates, checkering a bit worn but good on the pistol grip, checkering on forend visible but heavily worn, initials in right side of butt stock- old and worn in- could probably be rubbed out, tight action, bore a little dark with fine rifling, a true 1892 oddity! $3650.

  22. UNUSUAL SPECIAL ORDER 1894 SADDLE RING CARBINE, .32WS CALIBER, WITH 3/4 LENGTH MAGAZINE, MADE 1920, all original and unaltered, fine deep blue on barrel and magazine, receiver mostly flaked to gray with some blue on the bolt and in protected areas, good blue on loading gate, generally excellent wood with tight wood to metal fit, minty bore, correct carbine sight with slide intact, saddle ring intact, scarce variant, $1395.

  23. ONE OF THE VERY LAST 1894 .38-55 SADDLE RING CARBINES!  SERIAL NUMBER 1087XXX, MADE 1932!  This was two years after the .38-55 was supposedly discontinued and a number of years after discontinuing the saddle ring! Has the later style hooded ramp front sight (almost unheard of in .38-55). carbine style butt plate, carbine ladder rear sight, exc. deep barrel and mag blue, exc. receiver blue showing minor flaking and edge wear typical of  this era (usually all the receiver blue is flaked to silver on these), exc. screws, MINTY BRIGHT BORE, no doubt Depression Era parts clean-up carbine,  interesting that before the Depression in 1927 Winchester made almost 30,000 1894s and in 1932 they made only 3,679!  A truly great rarity in great condition! $3450.

  24. SPECIAL ORDER 1894 .32-40 RIFLE WITH HALF OCTAGON BARREL AND HALF MAGAZINE, MADE 1908, very hard to find caliber and I don't recall seeing another with this unusual configuration- usually these are seen in .30WCF, exc. wood with normal light handling, tight wood to metal fit, aged barrel blue, fine blue on loading gate,  mostly gray receiver, mostly gray/brown receiver, nice screws, flattop buckhorn rear sight with blade/bead front sight, bore a bit dark with good rifling and should clean fine+ or better, scarce caliber/configuration, $1695.

  25. NICE CONDITION 1894 .30WCF ROUND BARREL RIFLE, MADE 1905, exc. deep barrel and mag blue showing the lightest of wear only, receiver shows fine blue with edge wear and some silvering from carry on the bottom, upper tang shows most of the deep blue, nice light case color on the upper part of the lever sides, perfect bright bore, exc. wood with standard sling swivel in the butt and another in the forend tip- may be factory, original sights, tight action, nice example of a classic early 1894 with great bore! $1695.

  26. 1894 SADDLE RING CARBINE, .30WCF, MADE 1928, this one came out of Arizona, a classic ’94 carbine that was obviously used but taken good care of, exc. sharp bore, thinning barrel blue mixing gray from carry, fine mag blue, receiver mostly an uncleaned gray/brown with nice blue on the loading gate, tight action, ring intact, correct carbine sights, fine walnut stock and forearm (usual very thin age crack coming back from the forend tip) with tight wood to metal fit and showing light handling only, all solid steel and walnut without a bunch of safeties- never to be made again! $995.

  27. 1894 .38-55 SADDLE RING CARBINE, MADE 1906, fine barrel and mag blue showing light age only, receiver mostly gray with some aged blue in the most protected areas only, fine wood, the loading gate only may be a replacement (or is the original that had the front part lightly filed- reason unknown), bore will clean out to be near or about excellent, tight action, saddle ring stud intact but ring removed- easily replaced, correct original carbine sights, very hard to find caliber in a carbine especially with a good bore,  $1595.

  28. ESPECIALLY FINE 1895 SADDLE RING CARBINE, .30-40 KRAG CALIBER, MADE 1925, nice example with excellent wood including the handguard (which is usually missing), retains about all the deep barrel blue, fine lightly aged blue on the receiver is brighter/deeper in the more protected areas and on the bolt with the balance thinning/ageing and mixing soft plum brown, minty, sharp bright bore, saddle ring intact, exc. screws with no extra holes, this one came out of here in Montana, $2350.

  29. 1895 .30-40 CALIBER RIFLE, MADE 1907, another rifle that came out of there in Montana, this one has a bright, sharp perfect bore! Good thinning barrel blue that has some old surface dry rust on it that should be carefully oiled and cleaned off, receiver mostly gray with some traces of blue in the protected areas of the sides, magazine and lever, generally exc. wood and screws, forend retains the ebony inlay, tight wood to metal fit, tight action, original sights, completely unmessed with and uncleaned, $1495.

  30. 1895 .30-06 RIFLE, MADE 1923, generally excellent barrel blue and wood with tight wood to metal fit, forend retains the ebony wedge in the tip, receiver mostly flaked to gray (typical of this vintage Winchester receiver) with some aged blue remaining on the mag sides and on the bolt, has a Marbles tang sight (the bolt lightly pushes this back a small fraction of an inch on it's spring loaded stem but then it automatically moves back into position and seems to work fine), Marble/Sheard blade-bead front sight, filler in rear dovetail, exc. bore, has barrel band sling swivel with simple screw swivel in butt stock, tight action, $1595.

  31. 1895 IN RARE AND DESIRABLE .405 WCF CALIBER, WITH ALSO DESIRABLE SHOTGUN BUTT,  MADE 1920, completely unaltered and unfooled with example with MINTY BRIGHT BORE, exc. barrel blue showing minor wear only, fine receiver blue on the lower portion and on the magazine sides with thinning blue on the upper portions, exc. blue on the bolt, buckhorn rear sight with blade/bead front sight, tight wood to metal fit with wood showing light handling only, correct excellent and un-chipped Winchester embossed hard rubber butt plate, exc. screws, tight action, forend retains the factory ebony inlay, these are getting super hard to locate especially unaltered with bright bores and shotgun butt stocks! $3850.

  32. MODEL 53 SOLID FRAME .25-20 CALIBER RIFLE, MADE 1928, fine unaltered example with correct steel shotgun butt plate, nice wood showing very light handling only with tight wood to metal fit, receiver shows some good thinning blue on the left side and blue in the protected areas of the right side with better blue on the bolt (typical flaking of the blue on receiver of 1920s vintage guns), fine barrel blue with some light/minor thinning only with some typical blue wear at the muzzle, exc. sharp bore, original sights, tight action, a scarcer variation than most people realize with only a little over 15,000 made from 1924-1934 when the Great Depression killed this model, $1595.

  33. MODEL 55 TAKEDOWN RIFLE, .30WCF CALIBER, MADE 1929 (THE YEAR OF THE GREAT STOCK MARKET CRASH!), fine example of a scarce model of which only 20,580 of all styles and calibers were produced from 1924-1932, retains nearly all the barrel blue with only minor wear, Marbles buckhorn rear sight, receiver mostly flaked to gray with good blue in the more protected areas and nice blue on the bolt and loading gate, tight takedown, exc. wood with correct steel butt plate, tight wood to metal fit, exc. bore, exc. screws, another Montana rifle, $1495.

  34. PRE-WAR MODEL 63 .22LR AUTO RIFLE, MADE 1940,  overall blue aged to a deep uncleaned plum/brown with brighter blue in protected areas, fine+ wood shows light handling only, correct butt plate- stock slightly loose and needs to be tightened, Marbles buckhorn rear sight, probably had a tang sight on at one time as factory filler screws are missing, exc. bright bore, tight action, should make for a great shooter without spending a fortune on one of this popular model, $595.

  35. MODEL 65 IN DESIRABLE .218 BEE CALIBER, MADE 1936 AND PERIOD MOUNTED WITH A WEAVER J4 CROSS HAIR AND DOT SCOPE IN CORRECT STITH  REAR MOUNT (AND WEAVER FRONT MOUNT), generally exc. wood shows handling only, original checkered steel shotgun butt plate,  fine barrel blue with normal scuffs from use, receiver blue is ageing and mixing silvery on usual handling areas (bottom and edges etc.) with better blue in all the protected areas, fine optics, tight action, bright exc. bore, only 2549 of these .218s were made, interesting rear scope mount is angled over the receiver top so empty fired cases would eject into this angle and be thrown out the side, also has a Stith front block just ahead of the front objective lens.  I’ll bet this rifle accounted for a lot of small game and varmints!  $2450

  36. MODEL 71 DELUXE RIFLE, .348 WCF, MADE 1956, ONE OF THE LAST OF THIS GREAT MODEL, a particularly fine example with exc. blue overall showing only a few minor barrel scuffs and some gray on the receiver bottom from normal hunting/handling, correct Lyman receiver sight with rear dovetail filler, generally excellent wood shows light normal handling, fine checkering and correct Winchester embossed grip cap and super grade inletted swivel studs, exc. bore and tight action, original checkered steel butt plate, tight wood to metal fit, (NOTE: lots of photo light glare and reflection makes the receiver blue look washed out and thin etc., it is deep bright blue except on bottom of rec. as noted, just go by my written description)  $2595.

 

    BILL GOODMAN,  305 DONEGAL DRIVE,  BOZEMAN,  MONTANA  59715           TEL.  (406) 587-3131          FAX  (406) 219-3415   

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 THESE W WERE SUCH  GOOD NOTES FROM THE FIELD I'M KEEPING THEM HERE.

NOTES FROM THE FIELD:  (27 April 2011) CRACKED STOCKS!  Seems like an odd thing to write about, but this is something I've not seen in print before. I've observed a lot of rifles with cracks coming straight back toward the butt plate from the upper and lower tangs. Sometimes the cracks are severe enough to warrant repairs (like cross bolts etc. through the wrist or extensive gluing) and other times the stock remains pretty solid as is.  So what caused this condition in the first place?  I've hunted with all kinds of rifles in all kinds of weather and terrain and never had a gun get damaged like all these I've seen.  And I've taken some pretty bad falls too. Once, on ice I couldn't see beneath a couple inches of fresh snow, my feet went out from under me and my rifle landed a number of yards away!  Still, no cracks like these. So I've been puzzled by this for some time.  Then it hit me, since these guns all seemed like Western big game rifles- large lever actions like 1876 and 1886 Winchesters or Marlin 1881 and 1895s as well as all over while the rifles were in saddle scabbards- fairly common in icy winter conditions, especially in the mountains. Also, sometimes horses will walk so close to trees that they rub against them.  If a rifle is in a butt-forward position scabbard, the rifle can go on one side of the tree and the horse the other causing a stress cracked stock.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.  The wrists are fairly strong on most rifles and it takes a lot to crack one.  If anyone else has a different theory about this condition, I'd like to hear it!

          

 

NOTES FROM THE FIELD:  (24 OCTOBER 2011) "GUNS OF THE GREAT DEPRESSION YEARS"  When the Great Depression began with the Stock Market Crash of 1929 America was taken by surprise.  Prior to this pivotal event, in the gun industry production was high and sales were brisk.  Almost overnight sales fell off hugely.  The Winchester Handbook by George Madis shows production numbers by years of some of the major models.  This is pretty illuminating.  Here are some examples: Model 1890 .22RF had 12,367 produced in 1928 and 696 made in 1932; Model 1892 saw 64,833 produced in 1910 and 491 in 1930; Model 53 had 2,861 produced in 1925 and 30 made in 1937; Model 1894 had 29,967 made in 1927 and only1,192 made in 1934; Model 55 had 3,064 made in 1927 and 42 made in 1936. Colt, Marlin, Savage, Remington and Smith & Wesson etc. all f elt the same pressure.  With production down to a fraction of what it was, the big manufacturers had no choice but to fire employees.  Those lucky enough to be retained were the most highly skilled and experienced craftsmen.  They also had time to put extra fine fitting and finishing into each firearm.  Generally, the quality of these guns is truly exceptionally.  With production numbers of these late pre-war arms relatively small and quality without peer, their value should be assured.  Some of the scarce large frame Colt and S&W handguns- especially the target sighted versions- are almost breathtaking in their fit and finish.  This has been an under-appreciated niche in arms collecting/investing. It is my belief Great Depression era  arms are often "sleepers" on the antique market today and are bound to increase in value at a rapid pace making them excellent long term inves

 

DAVID

 

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