BILL GOODMAN,  P. O. BOX 2002,  BOZEMAN,  MONTANA  59771

   TEL. (406) 587-3131        FAX (406) 219-3415

                                              EMAIL:  montanaraven@hotmail.com

      Bill Goodman has been a collector of antique/collector firearms for well over 40 years and a full time dealer for over 30 years.  Traveling around the country constantly seeking good quality collector arms at REALISTIC PRICES, Bill sells exclusively by mail order.  He has advertised in every issue of The Gun List  (now Gun Digest the Magazine) since it's first small issues in the early 1980s (as well as The Shotgun News before that). All items are photographed. To view them just click the text of the item you want to see. Be sure to scroll down as most items have more than one photo.  All guns are sold as collector's items, not shooters.  If you wish to shoot an item listed here, it is strongly recommended that you have the item checked out by a competent gunsmith who specializes in antique firearms. All items are sold with the usual three (3) day inspection.  If for any reason you are not satisfied with your purchase, call to say you are returning the item and you will receive an immediate refund when the item is received back in the same condition it was originally shipped. This list will be constantly updated as new items become available.  Use the above phone number to call to check availability and for further info on any item you wish to purchase. Prices do not include shipping. All federal/state laws concerning the transfer of firearms are strictly followed.  Modern firearms must be shipped to an FFL dealer (or "Curio & Relics" license holders where applicable).  Pre-1899 antiques may be shipped to non-FFL holders. All Layaway sales are final.    

 

 

 

 

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NOTES FROM THE FIELD (9/14/15) THE TREND IN BLACK GUNS IS ACTUALLY HELPING ANTIQUE/COLLECTOR GUN SALES! I speak with people from all across our great country every day and more and more I'm hearing the same complaints about the state of the current firearms market- new and used. The sentiment is becoming almost universal with the over 30 year old set, that the guns manufactured today "have no soul." Gun shops offer racks and display cases of plastic/polymer firearms all of which are identical. Yes, they are made well and generally built to last, but firearm ownership is more than simply having and using a utilitarian object. There is the important matter of pride of ownership. I remember long ago when I was in college and got invited on a dove hunt.  I don't think I got off a shot that day, but I vividly recall sitting by a fence line with my Beretta Silver Snipe 12 ga. over/under across my knees.  It was a nice, but lower end, Beretta. But to me the wood grain made it unique and the coin silver receiver  contrasted beautifully with the blued steel vent rib barrels... I still have that shotgun and wouldn't sell it even though I don't use it much any more. I also have some synthetic stocked stainless steel bolt action rifles that are wonderfully accurate and that I've taken a good deal of game with. Somehow the memories and attachment to those rifles just aren't there. I could sell them and it wouldn't hurt at all. So, back to the main topic here, a lot of people are feeling the way I do (and probably you do too). This is why we are so drawn to walnut and blued steel in a rifle (and one that required the original owner to carefully stalk his game) that won't be effective at five or six hundred yards. We are also drawn to a hand-tuned revolver put together by a true craftsman, not injection molded and CNC machined by some technician. So again, the guns we like and want "have soul."  And this lack of new products containing this important virtue are what's keeping antique/collector firearms prices on the rise.  And maybe that's not such a bad thing for our investment portfolios!

 

COLT FIRE ARMS (click text for photo

  1. RARE POST-CIVIL WAR CIVILIAN 1860 .44 ARMY PERCUSSION REVOLVER, MADE 1868, much more scarce than the usual U.S. marked and cut for shoulder stock model, these were very popular on the Western Frontier well into the cartridge era as running out of cartridges was not a laughing matter when none could be procured, but powder and lead could always be found, even Wild Bill Hickok carried a pair of Colt 1851 .36 caliber percussion navy revolvers until his death in 1876, this is a fine example easily recognized by not having the recoil shields cut away and notch in the butt for shoulder stock, attachment, all matching numbers including the wedge in the 175XXX range, fine markings, fancy one piece walnut grips are excellent, still some blue in the more protected parts of the barrel but overall mostly an attractive uncleaned gray/brown patina with some scattering evidence of light rust and normal surface dings etc., nice screws, tight action and a particularly fine engraved cylinder scent, front sight has not been altered, very hard to find in this desirable civilian form, $2450.

  2. SINGLE ACTION ARMY .38-40, 4 3/4" BARREL, MADE 1906, a really nice untouched attic condition example with all matching numbers including the grips, front sight has not been altered or filed, exc. markings including the correct two line barrel address only used on the shorter 4 3/4" length barrels, exc. screws and cylinder pin, fine+ grips show light handling only and fit perfectly, mottled gray/brown receiver that has never been steel wooled or cleaned, correct original hammer, fine aged barrel blue mixing brown with better blue in the most small protected areas, good cylinder blue also showing ageing with better blue in the flutes, fine blue on the upper sides of the trigger guard bow and in front of the bow by the serial number, also some good blue on the upper back strap by the frame and on the butt and more protected areas of the grips straps, good blue in the ejector housing flutes with aged blue mixing brown/gray on the outside edge, bore needs a good scrubbing but should clean out about exc, great appearance, this 110 year old Single Action came out of Arizona, (4 photos) $2595.

  3. SINGLE ACTION ARMY .32-20, 5 1/2" BARREL, MADE 1902, an early smokeless powder model with very tight action, exc. screws, exc. bore only slightly dark but not pitted, front sight has not been altered, exc. markings, mostly gray/brown overall with thinning blue in the cylinder and better blue in the flutes and protected areas- top and bottom of ejector, sides of trigger guard bow etc. and a little touch of case color below the cylinder pin on each side of the frame and on the recoil shield on both sides of the hammer, matching numbers, neat old bone grips with brass escutcheons around the screw, exc. cylinder pin, lots of character and unaltered, $2250.

  4. PARTICULARLY FINE CONDITION EARLY SMOKELESS SINGLE ACTION ARMY .45 COLT, 4 3/4" WITH FACTORY LETTER SHOWING SHIPMENT TO STAUFFER ESHLEMAN & COMPANY, NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA, FEBRUARY 21, 1907! All matching numbers including the grips, exc. screws, barrel shows a gray streak most of the way down the left side from holster wear with the balance of the barrel retaining exc. deep original blue, correct two line barrel address as used on 4 3/4" guns, upper outside of the ejector housing also turning gray/brown from holster carry with the balance bright blue, unaltered front sight retains most of the blue, fine cylinder blue with a few spots of light freckling and thinning only, trigger guard bottom also mixing heavily gray with front strap, butt and back strap showing good blue with a little thinning only, frame shows some case color ahead of the cylinder and in the more protected areas of the frame sides with the remainder a nice uncleaned mottled gray, exc. grips, exc. bright bore, exc. mech., exc. cylinder pin that retains nearly all the blue as does the spring loaded retaining screw, classic cowboy Colt in the most desirable caliber in much better condition than usually encountered, the former owner said he got it many years ago in Texas (the 1996 Colt letter was from Texas). Interestingly, Stauffer Eshleman & Co. was a mercantile store located on 519 Canal Street in New Orleans- there are photos and info about this online.(4 photos)  $4250. ``

  5. BISLEY MODEL IN .38-40, 5 1/2" BARREL, MADE 1902, a really honest revolver showing no cleaning, steel-wooling, or "improving," still retains some good blue on about 2/3 of the barrel that has just aged dull and dark with brighter blue in the protected areas and in the ejector housing flutes etc., same with the grip straps with better/brighter blue around the top of the back strap by the hammer, the butt and protected areas of the trigger guard, exc. screws, fine markings, exc. lightly worn grips, aged dark cylinder blue, only needs the ejector head- should be an easy fix- the stud is still there and the ejector can be worked using just this, dark frame with a trace of case color in front of the cylinder on each side, front sight very slightly filed on top, nice appearance and 114 years old! (4 photos) $1895.

  6. BEAUTIFUL 1877 .38DA LIGHTNING REVOLVER WITH FULL NICKEL AND MELLOW  IVORY GRIPS, MATCHING #94XXX MADE 1893, this one has the 3 1/2" ejectorless barrel roll marked "COLT D.A.38" with correct two line address on the top, exc. markings including the patent dates on the left side, nearly full bright nickel remains with only minor peeling at the last half inch of so at the muzzle and some minor peeling at the sharp edge of the butt and a little on the back strap edges, exc. blued screws still retain most of the blue, exc. blued cylinder pin (these often chewed up), exc. fire blue on the hammer back and trigger, exc. action and mech., bore should clean exc., gorgeous yellowed/aged ivory is solid and not chipped, overall an outstanding and most attractive antique Lightning.(4 photos)  $2450.

  7. SUPERB CONDITION AUTHENTIC WELLS FARGO & CO. COLT 1895 NEW NAVY .38 DOUBLE ACTION REVOLVER, MADE 1904, I've had several of these over the years and they are all marked the same on the butt- this one is "W. F. & Co. A.10"- and all I've seen have the letter prefix and a number at the end just like this one, in fact as I recall they all had the "A." letter which I assume is a Wells Fargo & Co. inventory number of some kind, these all letter from Colt with the marking put on the butt by Colt. This one is by far the finest condition example I've seen. The ones I've had in the past or have seen have all been hard used and abused with no finish remaining and often dings in the metal. Wells Fargo ordered these .38 Colt caliber revolvers at the turn of the last century and then in future orders bought similarly marked Colt Police Positive Special revolvers in .38 Special caliber- these are much more common than the early 1895 .38 Colt DA guns. This one with 4 1/2" barrel is exceptional for a Wells Fargo gun retaining good fire blue on the trigger sides and hammer back, fine deep high polish blue on the frame and cylinder with some light edge wear and thinning on the cylinder, the barrel also has most of the bright blue with a couple of small finger print rust spots that were wiped off mainly on the left side and a touch on the top strap, some blue wear to the right side of the barrel near the muzzle, trigger guard, front strap and butt show nearly all the bright blue, back strap blue present but getting a little dull, exc. hard rubber grips with matching assembly number (#905) to the cylinder release and cylinder yoke, tight action with exc. bright bore (!), a great condition historical Colt that probably could not be improved upon! (3 photos) $2250.

  8. FINE CONDITION RARE EARLY 1905 .45 ACP AUTO PISTOL WITH ROUND HAMMER, #2XXX, MADE 1907, only about 6100 of these were made from 1905-1911 and many of those that have survived are in hard used and abused condition, this is one of the better ones I've seen in a while, exc. original checkered walnut grips show light wear only, fine aged and thinning blue on the slide with most of the blue ageing and wear to the edges with the tip and sides showing better color, exc. markings, fine frame blue with grip straps and bottom of trigger guard aged to brown, still some nice light case color on the stub hammer, exc. inside, unaltered sights, very difficult to locate especially this nice, (photo light reflection- looks better than photos) $3950. ``

  9. EARLY PRODUCTION 1908 POCKET HAMMERLESS .380 ACP AUTO PISTOL, #8XXX, MADE 1911, nice example with most of the deep early Colt blue intact with only normal light scuffing and light edge wear mainly on the slide, even the grip straps show most of the blue, unaltered sights, nice fire blue on the trigger sides, exc. early style Colt embossed hard rubber grips, exc. inside, unaltered sights, $975.

  10. VERY EARLY 3RD. GENERATION SINGLE ACTION ARMY SHERIFF MODEL, 3" BARREL WITH DUAL CYLINDERS FOR .44-40 AND .44 SPECIAL, UNFIRED IN WOOD GRAINED CARDBOARD BOX MADE 1980, this is a blue and case color revolver from the custom shop, interestingly this one was ordered with rosewood grips and gold Colt medallions, no cylinder drag line- looks unturned! comes with Colt booklet etc. box is a bit scuffed and tattered, but basically very sound, Styrofoam is fine, even has the Colt hang tag! Never to be made again and already 36 years old! These will only increase in value over time, (note: photo light reflection makes the blue looked washed out and thin... just the light, it's all like new) $2850.

                            

 

MARLIN & BALLARD  (click text for photos)

1) EARLY J. M. MARLIN MARKED MASSIVE BALLARD No. 5 PACIFIC "BUFFALO" RIFLE, .45-70 CALIBER, 32" HEAVY OCTAGON BARREL, WEIGHS OVER 12 LBS, MADE 1876-1881 (after 1881 the rifles are marked Marlin Firearms Co.), rear of barrel correctly stamped "45 Govt" with matching numbers on the bottom of the barrel and on the inside of the crescent butt plate, fine markings, fine action, double set triggers function fine, correct ring lever, barrel is a mixture of very aged dark blue mixing brown/gray, original sights, gray brown receiver, forend shows saddle and probably cross-stick wear as it has the usual worn sliver of wood missing from the right side of the forend- almost all heavily used Sharps and Ballard buffalo rifles show this, solid wood with the usual couple age cracks coming back from the upper receiver and one in the bottom forward part of the forend- just age/stress cracks that go nowhere, wiping rod with brass tip may or may not be original (I'm sure these broke all the time), bore shows fine rifling with some usual light scattered roughness more toward the chamber area, the Ballard Pacific rifle was made for western frontier usage and the early heavy ones in big calibers are especially desirable and hard to find. $3250.``

2) RARE AND DESIRABLE CALIBER .44-40 MARLIN FIREARMS COMPANY MARKED BALLARD No. 2 OCTAGON SPORTING RIFLE, usually these are found in either .32 or .38 Long Rim fire/Center fire caliber, I've only seen a few in .44-40, 28" medium weight barrel with correct original Rocky Mountain blade front sight with original buckhorn rear sight (needs elevator bar only), dark aged brown patina on receiver and lever, barrel blue also deep and aged/mixing plum, never cleaned or steel wooled, stock appears a little dry and has some age cracks extending back from the receiver, stock and forend show normal handling marks/dings as one would expect from a frontier caliber Ballard of the 1880s period, one small worn in chip at end of forearm on the right side, bore is dark with good rifling and should scrub out fine or better, lever spring a little weak, matching numbers, barrel top correctly marked "44 W," $1195.

3) SELDOM SEEN LONGEST BARREL OFFERED 1893 DELUXE  TAKEDOWN RIFLE IN .38-55 CALIBER WITH 32" FULL OCTAGON BARREL AND FULL MAGAZINE, MADE 1895! A very rare combination of features, thin barrel blue evenly mixing/ageing brown, mag tube shows some good blue on the top portion under the barrel with the balance aged to an uncleaned brown patina, receiver case colors have aged to a dark heavily mottled gray with some aged color in protected areas and on the sides, some good case color on the lever sides and good blue on the loading gate, tight takedown, wood shows good wood to metal fit, checkering on forend almost worn smooth, checkering on the pistol grip heavily worn, tight action, EXCELLENT BORE, original buckhorn rear sight with small blade/bead front sight, note that the magazine tube is two inches shorter than the barrel WHICH IS CORRECT as the 30" magazine tube was the longest offered!  A Cody Museum call-in sheet verifies the features of this rifle. An attractive and very unusual antique Marlin in a desirable caliber with unusually exc. bore! $3650.

4) MODEL '93 CARBINE IN RARE .38-55 CALIBER, this is a later carbine probably made in the 'teens (hence the Model 93 marking instead of "1893"), made without provision for saddle ring, very scarce and desirable caliber in a carbine, in fact, all Marlin carbines in this series are quite scarce, this one has a MINT BRIGHT BORE,  fine deep barrel blue, mag blue about as good with some brown/gray mixing on the bottom, receiver is a mottled brown, "SPECIAL SMOKELESS STEEL"  barrel markings, exc. forend, fine butt stock with one usual chip at the upper tang/receiver juncture and a small crack coming back just below for about an inch- minor and goes nowhere- also has a stress crack in the bottom of the stock caused by the lower butt plate screw- goes for a few inches and stops- stock is very solid, carbine butt plate, fine blue on loading gate, tight action, correct original carbine sights including the ladder rear with slide intact, very hard to find caliber especially with a bore in this great condition, come out of Arizona, $1695.

5) 1894 OCTAGON RIFLE IN .25-20 CALIBER, MADE 1903, has a Lyman tang sight and also has a surprisingly fine bore that is a little dark but with fine rifling and should brush out near excellent- certainly much better than normally encountered on a 1903 vintage Marlin in .25-20, fine aged barrel and mag blue showing a little thinning, mostly mottled gray receiver with a little blue remaining on the bolt and loading gate, exc. markings, blade/bead front sight with buckhorn rear, generally fine+ wood with good wood to metal fit and has some light old and dry linseed oil or stock finish on the wood that will come off easily with #0000 steel wool, wood has not been sanded, nice appearance, $1195.

6) DESIRABLE 1895 OCTAGON RIFLE IN .38-56 CALIBER, MADE 1898, nice example with fine lightly aged barrel blue overall, mag tube turning more brown, mottled cloudy receiver with some case color remaining on the hammer and a slight trace on the most protected areas, fine wood with a very slight short stress crack coming back from the lower tang- barely visible and goes nowhere, original sights, tight action, bore a little dark and could use a good cleaning to be about exc- not pitted, exc. markings including "Special Smokeless Steel" on the barrel, a better caliber than is given credit for as this is the .45-70 case necked down to .38 caliber and holding a full 56 grains of black powder as opposed to the .38-55 which was a straight .30-30 case and only held about 42-45 grains of powder, getting very hard to find 1895s in any condition, $2950.

 

 

                A NOTE ABOUT "MODERN MARLINS": Marlin has closed its doors for good in North Haven, Connecticut and been bought out by the folks who own Remington. It looks like some models have been put back into production with the barrels marked "Utica, New York."  I did see one of the new ones with the old North Haven barrel address so I assume they had left over barrels they were using up.  Quality in wood  to metal fit was fair at best and trigger pulls were off the scale heavy!  I don't know if any of the octagon barrel "cowboy models" will be produced again, although their online catalogue does show a model 1894 cowboy-type with octagon barrel in .45 Colt caliber only. I believe these traditional Marlins made in limited runs in North Haven, CT are going to be tomorrow's sought after Marlin collectibles.  Already prices for them are escalating rapidly.

 

1)  JUST IN: MODEL 1894S .44 SPECIAL AND MAGNUM DELUXE CARBINE WITH FANCY CHECKERED STOCK AND ORIGINAL MARLIN SLING, this is the later safety model, comes with original hooded sight and hammer extension used when scoped, about new overall, $875.

2) JUST IN: SCARCE MODEL 375 RIFLE CHAMBERED FOR THE FINE .375 WCF CARTRIDGE, ONLY 16,315 MADE BETWEEN 1980 - 1983, one of the more difficult of the "Modern Marlin" models to find today, in near new condition overall and complete with factory sling swivels and front sight hood, looks like it once had a scope on it that was removed and filler screws replaced in the factory mounting holes on the top of the receiver, great caliber (I have a Ruger No.3 single shot carbine in this caliber that shoots amazingly well), seldom seen model never to be made again, $1150.``

 

 

ANTIQUE & CLASSIC RIFLES, SHOTGUNS AND PISTOLS (click text for photos) 

 

  1. ONE OF THE BEST TRUE 1874 SHARPS SPORTING RIFLE CONVERSIONS MADE BY THE SHARPS RIFLE COMPANY, BRIDGEPORT, CT., NOT A MEACHAM CONVERSION, There is a lot of misinformation about these, but the fact is that the real Sharps Company took Civil War carbines back to the factory and ground the lock plates to the appearance of the 1874 model, changed the tumbler in the lock, put a real Sharps barrel on the rifle with correct Sharps markings & sights and with a correct 1874 forearm. These were then sold to dealers at lower prices than their 1874 Sporters. The Meacham Sharps Conversions have non-Sharps barrels and forearms and are usually of lesser quality.  This example is one of the best I've seen and is interesting as the barrel is a true Model 1874 barrel with the M-1874 serial number correctly stamped under the forearm and neatly "lined out," but still readable (#162XXX- this number will actually letter), This was fairly common on conversions and even factory sporters as Sharps used barrels on returned guns or used extra barrels on many rifles and especially on conversions.  It is a .40 2 1/4" (.40-70) caliber, 30" half octagon barrel with original distinctive Sharps front sight and heavy full buckhorn Lawrence ladder rear sight- this sight was usually put on guns destined for the Western regions- The action and stock are typical Military Carbine style, the amazing part is that this rifle has a bright exc. bore, exc. barrel blue and fine case colors that are lightly fading on the hammer and receiver! Mostly gray lock plate with the early markings, exc. forend, butt stock shows normal light handling only and no abuse,  these are usually found in hard used condition and this is one of the best I've seen! Much more desirable and valuable than a "Meacham," (5 photos, note: case colors are actually better on the left side of the receiver, but photo lights reflected badly, also the dark line on the left side of the stock is simply a light stain that the photo lights picked up and exaggerated) $5400.

  2. EXCEEDINGLY RARE AND ALMOST NEVER SEEN STEVENS No. 40 1/2 .22RF POCKET RIFLE WITH STOCK, not to be confused with the standard No. 40, the No. 40 1/2 has the special integral tang sight mounted on the back strap along with a non-adjustable V-notch fixed style rear sight and a folding globe Beach front sight- all of which are still on this piece! The 10" part oct/round barrel retains most of the blue that is thinning with a little brown mixing from age, retains all the original nickel finish on the receiver and wire shoulder stock with only a touch of edge flaking on the stock, bore is bright with scattered light corrosion (typical), the stock appears to have never been numbered and has two deeply stamped, very small letters where the serial number is normally stamped- difficult to make out, but possibly a "L" and "X" the meaning of which is unknown to me, but the stock is certainly correct, in the same condition as the pistol and appears to have always been with it, according to the book STEVENS PISTOLS AND POCKET RIFLES, by Kenneth L. Cope, it is estimated that only 2,500 of this model were made beginning in 1896 and many of these were made in less desirable .25 RF and .32 RF calibers. $1595.``

  3. UNTOUCHED, UNCLEANED ATTIC CONDITION RARELY ENCOUNTERED REUTH'S DOUBLE BARREL PERCUSSION ANIMAL TRAP PISTOL, This was a pretty horrible devise made from the late 1850s to the early 1860s in small quantities, distinctive and unique action that sets with two muzzle loaded iron barrels and percussion caps with two large barbed bait hooks sticking out from the muzzle and acting as a trigger...so when some animal (preferably not a dog or cat pulls on the bait, he trips the "hammer bar" and both barrels discharge into his head.  Deeply cast into the barrels "F. REUTH'S PATENT" in the center with "MAY 12TH 1857" and "HARTFORD, CONN" on each barrel top, complete with rear bar and ring for attaching to a stake or tree, fully functional and deep dark patina overall with no evidence of cleaning or steel wooling etc. A uniquely American "Folk Art" curiosity  from a time long gone that is now almost never seen, $1650.

  4. SELDOM SEEN DISTINCTIVE ALLEN & THURBER SIDE HAMMER PERCUSSION TARGET PISTOL, ONLY A FEW HUNDRED ESTIMATED MADE LATE 1840s TO 1850s, 8" half octagon barrel about .36 caliber with correct thimbles and ram rod, correct trigger guard with finger spur, original small blade front sight in dovetail and original long target open rear sight with wheel adjustment for elevation- this sight which appears to be made from spring steel is bent slightly up, but is all there and could no doubt be bent back down, unmarked overall (typical of early Allen firearms), deep uncleaned brown patina, fine+ deeply rifled bore, exc. wood grips,  fine action with light target trigger pull, a scarce and uniquely American target pistol from one of the earliest American makers of firearms (an interesting note: a replica of this pistol was used in the Tom Selleck movie, Quigley Down Under- in the end of the movie the sailor taking names as Matthew Quigley boarded the ship had one under a table) $1150.

  5. BALLARD RIFLES: (see above in Marlin section)

                             

 

 REMINGTON (click text for photos)

1) THE MOST DIFFICULT TO FIND AND DESIRABLE CALIBER IN THE ROLLING BLOCK MUSKET LINE! THIS IS A SMOKELESS MUSKET .30 U.S. CALIBER (.30-40 KRAG), I had always read that these were made and I've looked at every Rolling Block musket I've encountered in the last 30 years (!) and never found one... until now! About the only thing I can find on these is in the very back of George Layman's fine new book REMINGTON ROLLING BLOCK MILITARY RIFLES OF THE WORLD in which he lists a chart of all the calibers of rifles/carbines shipped between 1888 to 1921. He shows four small shipments of .30 cal. U.S. rifles shipped between 1898 and 1901 totaling only 94 rifles with a notation that "Smokeless powder rifles in .30-40 Krag caliber were supplied to the state of Colorado." Remington markings on the tang show last patent date of 1874. Fine aged barrel blue, barrel marked ahead of the handguard ".30 U.S." correct military rear sight with ladder and slide, uncleaned receiver aged to a mottled brown, exc. screws, bore should clean exc., tight action, fine forend shows light handling only, handguard has a couple hairline cracks coming back from the rear sight and go nowhere, exc. butt stock with a couple cracks coming forward from the toe of the butt plate for an inch or so, right side of butt stock in the middle has the number "45" stamped in very small numerals, also has an unusual screw with contoured washer around it behind the rear swivel and an inch or two in front of the butt plate- looks original, but meaning/use unknown (see 3rd photo), needs cleaning rod only, I don't ever expect to see another one of these! (3 photos) $2350.

2) EARLY HEPBURN SINGLE SHOT SPORTING RIFLE WITH 28" HALF OCTAGON BARREL, MARKED "40 1 7/8" BUT EXPERTLY REBORED TO .45-70, WITH CORRECT SPORTING TANG SIGHT AND WINDAGE ADJUSTABLE GLOBE FRONT SIGHT THAT WILL TAKE INSERTS, I actually got this rifle with a group of single shots some time ago and didn't realize it had been rebored until looking down the bore it looked just too good...and too big.  Anyway, it is a .45-70 now with perfect bore, low serial number 3XXX is matching on  barrel and receiver, fine deep barrel blue with correct Remington markings on the barrel, tight action, receiver is mostly a mottled gray with dome case color around the side lever and in the most protected areas, exc. wood with sharp original checkering on the pistol grip, empty rear sight dovetail on the barrel, nice appearance overall, $2450. ``

3) POSSIBLY UNIQUE, SPECIAL ORDER 1899 LEE BOLT ACTION SPORTING CARBINE IN .30-30 CALIBER WITH 24" BARREL!!! I can't find any mention of this configuration in the Remington Lee book by Eugene Myszkowski, carbines had 20" barrels and were mainly made in a couple of military calibers (.30-40 Krag and 7mm Mauser), The barrel is clearly marked on the top  with the Remington address in one lime and then "30 . 30"  has the correct carbine stock and forearm all in one and the correct handguard- which is a little unusual as the front end stops under the barrel band instead of extending a half inch in front of it- removing the band shows it appears the wood has always been this length, exc. lightly aged barrel blue, fine blue on the receiver, exc. markings, correct small ladder carbine sight, fine+ bore only a little dark with sharp rifling, probably non-factory (but who can tell?) curved rear sling bar on bottom of stock, Possibly made by the factory from left over parts when the model was discontinued, I've never seen one like it and probably won't see another again! $1650.``

4) EXCELLENT CONDITION ROLLINGBLOCK 7MM MODEL 1901 MUSKET, still retains most of the /deep/dark case colors on the action and trigger guard (these military models did not have highly polished bright case colors), exc. barrel blue showing only light ageing, original sights, bright exc. bore, exc. wood with only the lightest of handling, cleaning rod intact, leather sling, deep original blue on the hammer and breech block etc., even the barrel bands still show most of the blue, sharp tang markings with the last patent date of 1901, about as nice as one could hope to find, (four photos- looks much better in person as photo lights make the case colors appear lighter/duller than they are) $1295.

5)  PARTICULARLY FINE MODEL 30 EXPRESS BOLT ACTION RIFLE THAT CAME OUT OF HERE IN MONTANA, CALIBER ".30 SPRINGFIELD 1906" (.30-06), this one is in the 11XXX serial number range, exc. blue overall with only some light wearing on the bolt, exc. wood with sharp checkering, schnable forend tip, correct steel butt plate, not drilled for scope, may have had a correct receiver sight on at one time as the two filler screws are not in- no marks from ever having a receiver sight in either the metal or wood- exc. bright sharp bore, $995.

6) MODEL 14 PUMP ACTION RIFLE IN DESIRABLE .35 REMINGTON CALIBER WITH CORRECT LYMAN TANG SIGHT, nice early example with correct "upside down" steel curved butt plate, retains most of the barrel blue that is only lightly aged, receiver shows good blue with a few tiny surface dings on the left side- minor, tight takedown, exc. wood, perfect bright sharp bore, even retains most of the blue on the bottom of the receiver and trigger guard, too costly to produce today! $795.

 

 

SAVAGE (click text for photos)

1) SCARCE AND DISCONTINUED MODEL 24V SERIES C, OVER/UNDER RIFLE-SHOTGUN COMBINATION IN .222 REMINGTON CALIBER OVER 20 GAUGE 3" CHAMBER, MADE 1967-1980 (after 1980 the steel barrel release was changed to an under lever type in front of the trigger guard- plastic), This is a seldom seen rifle chambering and is an early example with the serial number C009XXX probably a first or second year production, this one retains about all the blue and case color, wood is excellent with barely a handling mark, comes with a Tasco 4X scope, retains original sights- blade front with folding buckhorn rear, tight action and bright bores, $675.

 

 

SHILOH  SHARPS AND OTHER REPRODUCTIONS (click text for photos)

NOTE:  I am also a Shiloh Sharps dealer.  In fact, I am the only stocking dealer of Shiloh Sharps rifles.  I frequently have a selection of NIB stock on hand for immediate delivery AT CATALOGUE PRICE WITH NO ADDITIONAL PREMIUMS OR FEES!  For further info and lists of available rifles, see my other website,  www.shiloh-ballard.com  

1) SHILOH SHARPS NO.3 .45-70 SPORTING RIFLE, MADE IN BIG TIMBER, MONTANA,  .30" standard octagon barrel, straight stock with standard hard rubber shotgun butt plate, double set triggers, full buckhorn Lawrence ladder rear sight with blade front sight, weighs approx. 10 1/4 lbs, like new, $1950.``

2) SHILOH SHARPS RARITY! A TRUE EARLY 1874 .45-90 "GEMMER RIFLE," LONG UN-CATALOGUED AND UNAVAILABLE, BUILT LIKE A HAWKEN RIFLE WITH DOUBLE WEDGE FOREND AND WIPING ROD, CRESCENT BUTT PLATE AND CHEEK PIECE! #3XXX, MADE FARMINGDALE, NY, almost never seen and bringing very high prices on the collector market when available, this one has a long range Soule tang sight with windage adjustable globe front sight with spirit level, as well as the original somewhat ornate "Hawken style" buckhorn rear sight, double set triggers, wood is an attractively grained rich reddish/brown matching both stock and forend, polished barrel with "Old Reliable" barrel marking, only a few minor handling marks, overall beautiful condition and even more rare in this caliber as most of these seem to have been in either .45-70, .45-110 or .45-120. I have this one priced at $4850.``

3) SHILOH SHARPS MADE IN BIG TIMBER, MONTANA, HARTFORD SPORTER IN .50-90 CALIBER, an unusual and very attractive custom rifle with straight stock, double set triggers, patch box, semi-fancy walnut, pewter tip and Hartford collar on the barrel, lightly antiqued finish on the case color parts (including the patchbox), has a 28" No.1 heavy octagon barrel that has scope block correctly mounted & installed with correct 17" spacing for an MVA traditional straight tube scope (these could be removed and filler screws put in), has a C. Sharps long range vernier tang sight with Lee Shaver Hadley eye disc and a globe front sight that will accept inserts, also has a spirit level in the rear sight dovetail (could be removed and replaced with the full buckhorn Lawrence ladder sight which is included), weighs 12 lbs. a recent manufactured rifle in excellent condition inside and out, $2650 (would cost many hundreds more to order like this plus install sights sights... and wait two years!) ``

 

 

SMITH AND WESSON (click text for photos)

 

1) VERY EARLY AND SIGNIFICANT .32 SAFETY HAMMERLESS FIRST MODEL D.A. REVOLVER (LEMON SQUEEZER) ONLY MADE 1888-1902, this was S&Ws first hammerless model and although they made 91,417 first models examples in top condition are scarce, this one with serial number10XXX was probably manufactured 1889-1890 and is in surprisingly excellent condition for such an early example, retains nearly all the factory nickel with only very minor edge peeling/freckling mainly on the cylinder and a spot or two on the frame around the cylinder and on one frame screw head, exc. original deep blue on the trigger guard and shows light case color on the trigger sides, exc. grips, exc. mech., bright bore should scrub out near exc., matching numbers, being small pocket guns, most of these early hammerless revolvers saw lots of carry use and wear, one of the better ones I've seen in s while, collectors are starting to recognize the importance of these early top break Smiths and values are going up for the better examples, $595.

2) EXCEPTIONAL CONDITION AND ONE OF THE RAREST, HARDEST TO FIND S&W MODELS, AND ONE OF THE RAREST U.S. MARTIAL ARMS! THIS IS A BEAUTY! MODEL 1899 U.S. ARMY REVOLVER, only 1,000 of these were ordered and issued in 1901, most surviving examples show very hard use and abuse, this was S&Ws only side swing revolver made in .38 Colt caliber. 1,000 were made for the Navy and 1,000 for the Army. Of these, the Army seems to be the most scarce. It is distinctive in that where the Navy model was marked with an anchor and Navy markings, it also had plain checkered walnut grips and no lanyard ring, the Army model had special checkered walnut grips with "J.T.T. 1901" stamped in the top part of the left grip and "K.S.M." stamped in the top part of the right grip. The butt is marked "U.S. ARMY" over "MODEL 1899" with a lanyard ring mounted between these markings.    Many, if not most, of these surviving revolvers have had their chambers reamed out to accept the longer .38 Special ammo, this one IS STILL IN ORIGINAL .38 COLT CHAMBERING! Excellent plus walnut grips, in the correct serial range of 13,001 to 14,000 (serial number 135XX), much of the early bright high polish blue remains with some edge wear and thinning/browning on the cylinder, some thinning/browning on the side plate and a little muzzle wear, exc. markings and has the correct K.S.M. inspector stamp on the frame and cylinder, matching numbers, lanyard ring intact, still has good case color on the hammer and trigger, front sight not filed or altered, just enough wear and edge wear to show this one has never been re-blued or "helped" in any way, tight action, minty bright bore, As this is an issued military model, it would be hard to improve upon! (interestingly, there is good info on the commercial and military Model 1899 in Timothy Mullin's excellent book THE K FRAME REVOLVER, published by Collector Grade Publications, the U.S. Army model pictured in this book is no where close to this one in condition)  -4 photos- $2650.

3) BIG "N" FRAME .44 SPECIAL SECOND MODEL HAND-EJECTOR REVOLVER, 6 1/2" BARREL, NICKEL FINISH, MADE 1921, only 17,510 of this model were made from 1915-1940 and I'm sure that low number reflects limited manufacture and demand during the Great Depression, this one retains nearly all the original nickel with only some scattered freckling mainly on the edges of the grip straps and on the right side of the frame behind the cylinder (this is typical as this is the area that holster straps often rub on), still retains some light case color on hammer and trigger, sharp bright bore, tight action, exc. markings, matching numbers, exc. checkered walnut grips, lanyard ring intact, these big frame pre-war .44s are becoming very hard to get, (note: lots of photo light reflection off bright nickel- looks better in person) $1395.

4) RARE COMMERCIAL VARIATION 1917 ARMY .45ACP REVOLVER, SERIAL NUMBER 160XXX, MADE 1920s, Easily identified by the lack of U.S. Government markings and stamped with the S&W trademark on the frame (U.S. Army revolvers don't have this marking), not many of these were made and are seldom encountered now, this one has fine blue overall with normal holster wear to the barrel sides mainly toward the muzzle along with some grip strap wear, shows some minor blue wear on the right side of the frame behind the cylinder recoil shield probably from a holster strap, some light edge wear only on the cylinder, exc. screws, still retains some light case color on the hammer and trigger, lanyard ring intact (some have this and some don't), matching serial numbers, real pearl grips are excellent and not chipped or cracked, exc. tight action and bore, front sight has not been altered, a scarce commercial production "N" frame pre-war S&W, $1595.``

5) ONE OF THE LESSER KNOWN POST-WAR S&W RARITIES: PRE-MODEL 12 AIRWEIGHT .38 SPECIAL M&P 2" WITH ORIGINAL MATCHING NUMBER ALUMINUM CYLINDER!  Introduced as one of the first light weight alloy frame S&Ws in September of 1952. When cylinders started cracking from the use of hi-speed .38 Special ammo, the company changed to all steel cylinders in  1954. They also replaced many aluminum cylinders with steel. This example has all matching numbers including the diamond checkered grips and was made in 1953. An interesting feature on these is that the frames were made thinner and regular K-frame grips won't fit, exc. case color on hammer and trigger, most of the black finish remains with light cylinder edge wear, barrel marked "AIRWEIGHT" five screw frame has the scarce small "locking screw" to hold in the side plate screw in front of the hammer, tight action, exc. inside, rarely found example, and comes with a lined thumb-break Safariland holster,  $895.

 

 

U.S. MILITARY AND SPRINGFIELD (click text for photos)

 

1) SCARCE EARLY 1877 TRAPDOOR .45-70 RIFLE, #105XXX, C.1878, excellent example of a limited production model in the Trapdoor line as only about 20,000 were made and most got arsenal updated and altered over time, in the correct serial range that went from 75000 to 115000, rear sight correctly graduated to 1100 yards and secured with early "slotless" screws, light correct oval ESA 1878 dated cartouche in the stock along with the circle P proof behind the lower tang, fine deep barrel blue, also good blue on the front sight protector hood and the swivels, dark correctly marked breech block and lock plate (without the 1873 date on the lock as is correct), "MASS" stamped on the receiver ring, correct barrel proofs, exc. bore, exc. mech., fine+ wood overall with a few "rack dings" on the underside of the forend ahead of the trigger guard which is fairly common, later style cleaning rod, has an unusual circle stamping in the middle rear of the left side of the stock- meaning unknown- Native American or a brand?- one of the nicest examples I've seen in a while, $1295.

2) RARE MODEL 1881 TRAPDOOR 20 GA. FORAGER SHOTGUN, ONLY 1376 MADE BETWEEN 1881-1885, these interesting Springfields were made for use by government hunters and scouts at outposts in the West for hunting purposes, most saw very hard use and abuse, this one is complete and original, still retains a faint cartouche in the stock plus the circle P cartouche behind the lower tang, serial number 10XX, breechblock correctly marked "1881", barrel measures 25" so may have been shortened an inch during it's time of use- common as ice, snow or dirt stuck in the muzzle could cause a bulge that was quickly taken care of by shortening the barrel an inch or so, correct Civil War altered stock with filled ramrod channel, forend has a very old wood repair/fill at the tip and another small one toward the top of the lock plate, there is the letter "M" carved in the right side of the stock, slight crack coming back from the trigger area in the wrist on both sides that does not go through (common crack area), correct early style lock plate dated 1873, probably mismatched hammer- easily replaced with any Trapdoor hammer, surprisingly bright bore, dark patina metal,  fine action and appearance, seldom seen U.S. martial arm with great western association! $1350.

3) TRULY AMAZING HIGH CONDITION SPRINGFIELD OFFERING! UNALTERED 1892 KRAG RIFLE, 2ND. TYPE WITH CLEANING ROD, #13XXX, these cleaning rod early Krags were only made from 1894-1895 and nearly all of them were recalled and altered to the 1896 type without the cleaning rod and other upgrades, somehow this rifle remained as issued! It has all the early features including cleaning rod, upper barrel band made for rod, flat butt plate without trap, straight toe of stock, flat muzzle (no crown), short handguard which does not cover the front ring of the receiver, extractor is smooth with no hold open pin, 1894 marked receiver, sharp and crisp "JLA"  over 1895 dated stock cartouche along with sharp circle P cartouche, exc. plus wood has never been sanded or cleaned, fine lightly aged and lightly thinning barrel blue, uncleaned cloudy gray/brown receiver, swivels intact, EXC. BORE, the sight is the earliest 1896 type which was introduced in 1895, unaltered handguard matches stock perfectly, had a sling on it when I got it that was split at the bottom- included, bottom of the trigger guard worn bright from the sling with good blue on the front and back portions! no doubt one of the best extant, I've only seen a few of these over the years and this one is a gem! (five photos)  $8400.

4) HARD TO FIND 1895 "VARIANT" KRAG SADDLE RING CARBINE WITH UNUSUAL FANCY WALNUT STOCK, these were the earliest of the later/standard Model 1896 carbines, but with only "1895" on the receiver- the later ones have "Model 1896"- early serial number 26XXX, all original and unaltered, light but readable stock cartouche and circle "P" cartouche, exc. reddish/brown walnut stock and handguard with high grade "fiddle back" grain in the butt stock- I've only seen this on one other Krag and it was a 1896 rifle- cleaning rods still in butt trap, aged and thinning barrel blue, original 1896 "C" marked rear sight ("C" for carbine), mottled gray receiver and trigger guard, correct barrel band/sight protector, fine bright bore looks a little worn, but should scrub out about exc., all Krag carbines are getting very hard to find and the early 1895 and 1896 "Variant" carbines are exceptionally scarce these days, overall a particularly fine cartouched example of America's last issued saddle ring carbine, $2850.

5) SMITH & WESSON 1899 U.S. ARMY .38 COLT REVOLVER (see above in S&W section)

 

 

 

WINCHESTERS (click text for photos) .

  1. EARLY 1873 2ND. MODEL .44-40 ROUND BARREL RIFLE, #62XXX, MADE 1880, this one came out of a Texas estate and has a nice "attic" condition look to it,  the receiver has an attractive aged brown patina with original dust cover intact- some traces of old rust wiped off years ago, but never buffed or steel wooled, barrel and mag tube have dark and dull aged blue mixing brown and plum, original sights, surprisingly nice screws, mellow uncleaned brass lifter, bore is dark and a bit rough with visible rifling and definitely could use a good oil soaking and brushing, butt stock appears a bit dry and weathered with good wood to metal fit and only a beginning of a short crack coming back from the upper tang on the left side- minor and goes nowhere- forend shows some honest saddle wear and is also weathered with three small short cracks on the left side coming back from the forend cap- again, minor. In all, a nice early frontier 1873 .44-40 with a good appearance and no doubt lots of history! $1950.``

  2. 1873 .44-40 SADDLE RING CARBINE, MADE 1891, a solid, but well used carbine, wood is solid but shows much handling and has a dry, weathered appearance, slight hairline crack coming back from the upper tang that goes nowhere and isn't all the way through the stock- minor and hardly visible, good wood to metal fit, forend shows use and wear with normal dings etc. from use, metal overall a mottled aged gray and brown with some  dark aged blue around the saddle ring and on the loading gate, dust cover missing, correct carbine leaf sight with slide intact, fine action, mellow brass lifter, good markings, bore shows good rifling and has some light scattered roughness that is mostly shallow and surface that should scrub out better, nice frontier appearance, $1495.``

  3. 1873 .44-40 MUSKET, MADE 1894, very attractive example and all complete with original dust cover, military rear sight, swivels etc., uncleaned overall with aged blue-brown patina on the left side of the receiver with better blue in the protected areas and fine blue on the loading gate, barrel blue also aged to a nice even mellow plum, uncleaned mustard yellow brass lifter factory marked "44 CAL" exc. wood shows light handling only with three small script initials (?) that may be foreign arsenal markings or some other identification marks- all very old and worn in, tight action, exc. mech., exc. bore, really fine unmessed with example, plus antique serial number- many of these were made post-1898, $2395.

  4. SUPER RARE AND DESIRABLE 1873 TRAPPER SADDLE RING CARBINE, .44-40 CALIBER WITH LEGAL 16" BARREL, MADE 1909, When I got this one the owner told me it was brought out of Mexico by Bob McNellis who ran El Paso Saddlery Co. in Texas back in the 1960s or early 1970s.  I can't substantiate this, it's just what I was told and I have no reason to doubt it, Has the correct one inch shorter forend used on Trapper Carbines and also has the correct Winchester barrel address markings AHEAD of the barrel band. This is a hard used Trapper from the Mexican Revolution days (Trappers were popular in Mexico and the Southwest- especially Texas), missing the dust cover and saddle ring (staple intact), overall metal a deep UNCLEANED plum/brown heavily freckled/lightly pitted patina, markings visible, but weak on the barrel, original sights including the correct ladder with slide rear sight marked "1873" at the top, mellow brass lifter, carbine butt with brass trap, lower tang has what appears to be a brass-weld repaired crack under the lever area only visible when the lever is lowered- small and neatly done- fine action and surprisingly bright bore that ought to scrub out to NEAR EXCELLENT! heavily weathered and saddle worn butt stock and especially forearm which has some very old age cracks, Overall a lot of history and character in this extremely rare 1873 variation, $3950.

  5. CLASSIC 1873 .44-40 OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1886, a standard frontier rifle with fine+ butt stock that shows light handling only and tight wood to metal fit, forend shows a little more wear but still fine (what may look like a crack in the forend is simply a couple of old and worn in scratches), metal is mostly a gray color with some aged blue in protected areas and on the loading gate, original sights, bore is surprisingly decent with good rifling and some light scattered surface roughness and wear, the small letters "D.S.S." are stamped in the left side of the barrel ahead of the forend cap and on the left forward side of the receiver- meaning unknown- mellow brass lifter with "44 Cal" markings, sharp barrel and tang markings, original dust cover intact and working properly,  $1495.

  6. A VERY FUNKY (AND INEXPENSIVE!) CUSTOM 1885 HIGHWALL IN CALIBER .22-3000, I believe this is simply the .25-20 Single Shot cartridge necked down, I think Buffalo Arms has brass etc. for this one, anyway, this one is only stamped on the barrel ".22-3000  L. King" so I assume Mr. L. King made this one, the action is tight and has had the lower tang bent for pistol grip with the antique serial number re-stamped on the upper tang, high comb/cheek piece stock was actually done in two pieces- upper and lower- and affixed together almost seamlessly, black hard rubber butt plate marked " No-Slip Butt Plate, Fray-Mershon Inc., L.A. Calif." (I found a listing for a patent they held for Pachmayr in 1935), 23 1/2" barrel is a U.S. Springfield .22 barrel dated 1931 and has had the barrel band front sight removed, black plastic pistol grip cap, heavy beavertail forearm with one large diamond checkered in the bottom held on with a single barrel band, scope blocks on the barrel, exc. bright bore, would be fun to shoot as is or make into something else, $895.

  7. SPECIAL ORDER 1886 .45-70 ROUND BARREL RIFLE, FULL MAGAZINE, SHOTGUN BUTT, MADE 1909, Winchester call in sheet shows this rifle #144XXX as "Rifle, .45-70, round barrel, plain trigger, Lyman hunting front sight with flat top sporting rears sight, smokeless, shotgun butt- rubber, nickel steel barrel, shipped September 15, 1909,"  barrel side is stamped "Nickel Steel," fine deep barrel and mag blue that is showing only some minor spots of thinning/scuffing, still retains the sights mentioned in the letter, exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit and exc. Winchester embossed rubber butt plate with the beginnings of a crack in the middle that doesn't go to the edge- really minor, fine blue on the bolt and loading gate, receiver sides show over half the blue on the left side and a bit less on the right side with the balance mixing gray, fairly bright exc. bore, exc. screws, tight action and really attractive special order 1886 in the most desirable caliber, generally during this time of manufacture full length 26" barrels had been replaced with the extra light weight barrels in lengths of 22" for the .45-70 and 24" for the .33WCF- both standard with half magazines, $4350.

  8. 1886 OCTAGON RIFLE IN .40-82 CALIBER, #61XXX, MADE 1891, a nice example with fine barrel blue showing some age and thinning/mixing a little brown, mag tube aged to brown, receiver a dark mottled silvery, exc. blue on the bolt and good blue on the loading gate, buckhorn rear sight with rare "tunnel" front sight with bead on top (one of the more interesting and seldom seen sights of the day), exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit, bore surprisingly fine with good rifling and just needs a good clean to be about excellent- much better than normally seen, tight action, this was the biggest .40 caliber in the 1886 and is simply the .45-90 necked/tapered to .40 caliber, $2850.

  9. VERY EARLY SPECIAL ORDER 1886 RIFLE IN .33WCF WITH SOLID FRAME AND FULL MAGAZINE, MADE 1905, as full magazines are rare and only special order on these lightweight 1886 models, I called the Cody Museum and confirmed that this rifle was originally shipped with "round barrel plain trigger, full magazine and shotgun butt rubber," most of these were also takedown with solid frame rifles more scarce, the .33WCF was introduced in 1903 making this one in the 137XXX serial range a very early example, exc. mag blue with only a little minor dulling spot toward the muzzle, fine barrel blue showing some thinning and age, original buckhorn rear sight with Lyman half-moon with ivory bead front sight,  exc. blue on the bolt, fine blue on the receiver sides that is thinning/ageing with some plum and brown mixing, receiver edges, top and bottom turning gray/brown, uncleaned appearance, exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit, exc. sharp bore and tight action, tang screw only appears turned, one of the few .33 caliber 1886 models that really looks like an '86 ought to look, $3200.

  10. AN INTERESTING AND UNUSUAL 1890 RIFLE IN SCARCE AND DESIRABLE .22 LONG RIFLE CALIBER, what's unusual about this one that was made in 1926 is that the barrel has both the "mail order" oval proof mark PLUS the regular Winchester proof indicating that the barrel was put on by Winchester, so the question is...was this one sent back to Winchester with the request it be rebarrelled  in  .22 LR or did Winchester simply need a barrel in this caliber and take one out of the extra mail-order barrel bin? Either way, by 1926 many of these were being made in the popular Long Rifle chambering and it is 100% Winchester built, exc. bright bore, fine aged receiver blue with silvering on the top and bottom, fine+ barrel and mag blue, Marbles buckhorn rear sight with small blade/bead front sight exc. late style barrel and tang markings, tight action, exc. forend, fine+ butt stock with only light handling marks,  $1195.

  11. UNUSUAL ANTIQUE SERIAL NUMBER SPECIAL ORDER 1892 .44-40 OCTAGON RIFLE WITH 26" BARREL (2 INCHES LONGER THAN STANDARD), #65XXX, MADE 1894, this is a very scarce length for a Model 1892 .44-40 as most of the long barrel rifles were chambered in either .25-20 or .32-20, this one has a surprisingly fine bore that is a little dark and shows some wear but is not pitted as most early black powder .44WCF rifles are, fine wood shows normal handling and good wood to metal fit, barrel and mag are very aged blue that still retains uncleaned surface rust and grime probably from being stored and left for a few decades, receiver about the same and mostly a freckling gray/brown mix, original buckhorn rear with Winchester blade front sight, fine markings, a rare combination of extra long octagon barrel, .4-40 caliber and fine bore! In typical frontier used condition, this one came out of Arizona, $1695.``

  12. 1892 .32-20 OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1915, a really attractive rifle that retains nearly all the barrel and mag blue with only some light corrosion on the barrel ahead of the front sight, original sights, receiver blue ageing to brown with exc. screws and fine blue on the loading gate- never cleaned or steel wooled, exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit and has a slightly better than standard grain, fairly bright bore with only a couple minor spots that should scrub out to near exc., a truly nice looking 1892 with great barrel and mag blue, $1795.

  13. FINE CONDITION, HARD TO FIND 1892 .44-40 OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1904, fine deep barrel and mag blue with only a little ageing and edge wear on the barrel, left side of the receiver shows most of the blue with some edge wear, fine blue on the bolt, right side of the receiver shows a little more blue wear and thinning toward the front half with most remaining on the rear portion and getting silvery on the bottom by the serial number, fine+ wood with tight wood to metal fit, there may be a very small and very light "W" scratched into the rear right side of the stock or it may be just a scratch- very surface and minor-  still retains good blue on the forend cap, exc. screws, tight action, bore will scrub out fine or better with good rifling and just some minor scattered surface roughness, original flattop buckhorn rear sight with Marble #2 blade/bead front sight, great appearance and hard to find in this caliber and condition, $2750.

  14. ANTIQUE SERIAL NUMBER 1892 .38-40 OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1896, fine deep barrel and mag blue showing some dulling from age only, gray brown receiver with good blue on the loading gate, fine+ wood with tight wood to metal fit showing light handling only, top of the hammer worn so it doesn't go to full cock when tee lever is dropped- a minor and easy fix,  original buckhorn rear sight (needs elevator bar only) and Winchester front sight, surprisingly fine+ bore a little dark with good rifling and minor scattered surface roughness, nice unfooled with appearance, $1295.

  15. 1892 TRAPPER SADDLE RING CARBINE IN RARE 25-20 WITH FACTORY 16" BARREL, MADE 1917, almost all the short "Trappers" were in .44-40 caliber, anything else is rare, the previous owner of this carbine had an extra barrel made the same length in the same caliber and installed as he wanted a shooter with a perfect bore so this one has the original barrel with correct markings in the correct place etc. PLUS the professionally altered standard carbine barrel also in 16" length that is mounted on the rifle- it would be easy to re-install the original barrel- fine+ wood with tight wood to metal fit and CORRECT SHORT FOREARM show light handling only, mostly brown receiver with some light rust pitting on the bottom behind the serial number, original barrel and mag tube show blue with outside rust and scattered pitting that could be cleaned better- still some good blue on the barrel, bore is a bit worn and frosty- might clean better, fine markings, exc. screws, correct carbine rear sight (now on the replacement barrel) and carbine front (only the pinned blade was taken from the original barrel and put in the replacement), this is the shortest legal length barrel so no ATF papers are needed, $3450.

  16. EXCELLENT CONDITION VERY LATE PRODUCTION 1892 OCTAGON RIFLE, .25-20 CALIBER, #996XXX, MADE 1929, ONE OF THE LAST OF THE 1892 RIFLES!  Correct very late barrel markings including the "Model 92" stamping, retains nearly all the barrel and mag blue with only the lightest of handling marks, receiver retains most of the late 190s style of blue that looks more dull black- these late guns almost always have the receivers flaked to silver, this one shows only very minor thinning/freckling, exc. wood shows only light handling, tang sight with blade/bead front sight, filler in rear dovetail- doesn't look like it ever had a rear sight, bright minty bore, late rifles like this one especially in octagon are quite scarce, made in the year of the Great Stock Market Crash! $2150.

  17. ANTIQUE SERIAL NUMBER SPECIAL ORDER 1892 TAKEDOWN, FULL OCTAGON BARREL WITH HALF MAGAZINE AND FANCY WALNUT STOCK/FOREND, IN 32-20 CALIBER, MADE 1898, unusual configuration as full oct. barrels were rarely paired with half magazines (they were usually half-oct or round), tight takedown, fine wood to metal fit with slight age crack coming back from the receiver on the right side for an inch or so- minor, good aged barrel blue mixing a bit plum/brown, mainly aged uncleaned brown receiver with good blue on the loading gate and some very light dings from handling, original sights, bore is dark with good rifling and some wear/roughness throughout- might scrub out better, very unusual and attractive antique serial number rifle, $1695.``

  18. JUST WHEN YOU THINK YOU'VE SEEN EVERYTHING TURNED OUT BY THE WINCHESTER FACTORY... 1892 RIFLE THAT WAS RETURNED TO THE FACTORY AND FITTED WITH A MODEL 65 BARREL IN .25-20 CALIBER! Obviously done at the factory as the barrel has the "mail-order" oval proof PLUS  the regular Winchester firing proof mark which indicates the factory pulled this extra barrel out of inventory and instead of "mailing" it out used it themselves to rebarrel this 1892 that was obviously returned for work! The serial number on the receiver is in the 330XXX range or about a 1906 manufacture, so it was returned some time later- probably quite a bit later as the butt stock has the finely checkered shotgun style used on post war guns, butt stock and forearm match perfectly in color, correct button style 1/2 magazine as the Model 65 barrel has no provision for a full magazine, correct 22" length with integral ramp and hooded front sight (hood intact), Marked on left side of the barrel "Model 65" and also the late ".25-20 WCF" marking., receiver blue ageing to plum/brown, fine aged barrel blue also mixing a little plum/brown (matches receiver nicely), PERFECT BRIGHT BORE, A real oddity and all factory Winchester!! $1695.

  19. UNUSUAL SPECIAL ORDER 1894 .25-35 CARBINE MADE WITHOUT SADDLE RING AND WITH A RIFLE STYLE CRESCENT BUTT PLATE, MADE 1919, no doubt in my mind the butt stock is original as the wood color matches the forend correctly and the wood to metal fit is very tight- also the fact that it was a special order without ring provision means this carbine was not a standard production piece, fine barrel and mag blue showing light age only, receiver blue mostly aged/flaked brown (typical of this vintage receiver) with some blue in the more protected areas, carbine rear sight with slide intact, good blue on the loading gate, fine wood with a few light handling dings only, exc. screws, sharp exc. bright bore, very interesting and unusual variation in a great caliber, $1950.

  20. EARLY SPECIAL ORDER 1894 CARBINE WITH SHOTGUN BUTT, NO RING, .30WCF, MADE 1899, a "call in sheet" from the Cody Museum comes with this one and confirms it is a carbine in .30 caliber with "shotgun butt" and "no sling ring," fine barrel blue shows light dulling from age only, exc. mag. blue, mostly gray receiver with some blue in the most protected areas only, fine walnut stock and forend, hard rubber butt plate may be a correct old replacement as it seems slightly oversize (and has a couple shallow edge chips and a repaired crack), tight action with bore that will clean exc., three leaf express sight with all leaves intact, priced right at $1050.

  21. HIGH CONDITION 1894 .25-35 SADDLE RING CARBINE, MADE 1925, retains exc. blue on the mag tube, barrel blue thinning somewhat but shows good blue and has the late "MODEL 94 - WINCHESTER - NICKEL STEEL - .25-35 W.C.F." marking, original carbine sight with slide intact, exc. deep receiver blue with some spotting/flaking beginning mostly on the right side and bottom, fine blue on the upper tang, hammer, lever and even the barrel bands, exc. screws, exc. bore, exc. wood looks a little dry, hard to find 1920s vintage Winchesters with any receiver blue as they changed the heat treating/bluing process during this time causing early flaking of the finish, $2150.

  22. VERY RARE BARREL LENGTH, 1894 22" OCTAGON, FULL MAGAZINE, ORIGINAL SHORT RIFLE, .30WCF CALIBER WITH CORRECT 1 INCH SHORTER FOREND, MADE 1909. Almost all the 22" barrel 1894s I've seen have been the "Extra Light" version usually with a round barrel and half magazine, this one has the standard weight octagon barrel and most importantly has the  8 3/8" forend used only on rifles with special short barrels as opposed to the standard 9 3/8" used on other rifles. receiver is mostly an uncleaned aged blue to brown with some very aged blue in the more protected areas and on the loading gate, aged and thinning barrel and mag blue, has the special three leaf express sight with all leaves intact, fine wood, stock has a couple of holes near the toe from a past sling swivel base- should be easy to fill, bore a little dark with sharp rifling and will scrub out exc., tight action, much more scarce than the usual 20" length short rifle which was considered the standard, $2450.

  23. PROBABLY FIRST INTRODUCTORY YEAR MANUFACTURE FOR THE .32WS CARTRIDGE, 1894 OCTAGON RIFLE IN THE 220XXX RANGE, about as early as I've seen for a .32WS chambered 1894 that was introduced in 1902, the serial number on this one would indicate a 1901 manufacture date (no doubt the receiver was in the bin and not used until at least 1902 or later), has the correct "Smokeless Powder" rear sight used only on this model along with a blade/bead front sight, fine aged barrel and mag blue, aged receiver blue mixing heavily plum/brown, exc. screws, fine+ wood with normal light handling marks and tight wood to metal fit, tight action, bore a little dark and frosty, fine appearance and super early without any proof marks as introduced in 1905, attractive uncleaned appearance, $1250. ``

  24. HARD TO FIND OCTAGON BARREL 1895 RIFLE IN .38-72 CALIBER MADE IN 1899, this is a fine condition example with two very unusual features: the hammer and lever are government inspected and stamped "KSM" which indicates that these were left over parts from the 1898 U.S. Government contract for muskets and carbines. I have seen this a number of times before and always on 1899 manufactured rifles, this is a scarce caliber and barrel configuration as round barrels were standard, exc. stock and forend, ebony inlay in the forend tip intact and original, fine deep barrel blue shows only a little edge wear and ageing, receiver shows thinning blue on the lower portion of the left side and more on upper and lower portions of the right side, fine blue on the bolt, bore is a little dark with good rifling and ought to scrub out fine+ to near exc., tight action, original buckhorn rear sight with Winchester blade front, correct 26" barrel as used for this caliber, tight wood to metal fit, really attractive early 1895 rifle with octagon barrel in a scarce black powder caliber, (5 photos) $2750.``

  25. BEAUTIFUL HIGH CONDITION 1895 STANDARD RIFLE IN .30 ARMY (.30-40 KRAG), #75XXX, MADE 1915, surprisingly hard to find these in this kind of condition, retains nearly all the bright blue with some light age dulling on the upper tang and some scattered light thinning/mixing plum on the receiver, even the usual areas of wear like the receiver ring, edges and mag bottom etc. retain deep blue with a hint of age, exc. deep barrel blue, minty bore, original sights, exc.+ wood with tight wood to metal fit, no extra holes or alterations, simply a hundred year old excellent example of one of the lesser produced Winchester lever models of which most saw hard use by dedicated sportsmen who wanted more than the common 1894 .30WCF rifles and carbines so popular at the time, $2850.

  26. EARLY SOLID FRAME 1897 12 GA. RIOT GUN, MADE 1924, much more scarce than the more common takedown models, this one has a tight action with perfect bright bore, fine deep barrel blue, receiver blue aged and mixing plum/brown with better blue in the more protected areas, mag tube also turning brown, exc. forend, exc. butt stock with one tiny chip at the corner by the trigger guard juncture (could be lightly sanded and could be made almost invisible), worn original Winchester embossed hard rubber butt plate, correct 20" barrel marked "CYL" for cylinder bore, these are really getting hard to find now, nice overall appearance, $875.

  27. EARLY HIGH CONDITION FULL DELUXE 1907 .351 SELF LOADING RIFLE WITH FANCY WALNUT, PISTOL GRIP AND CHECKERING, MADE 1909, highly figured burl walnut with heavy "piano finish" is all excellent showing very minor handling only with most of the finish remaining, correct Winchester embossed butt plate and pistol grip cap, sharp checkering, exc. blue overall with light edge wear only and wear/flaking to the forend cap, tight action exc. inside, original sights, great example of one of the most early semi-auto center fire rifles! ( 3 photos ) $3250.

  28. PRE-WAR, GREAT DEPRESSION ERA MODEL 63 .22 LR AUTO RIFLE, MADE 1937, fine barrel blue, receiver turning an uncleaned gray/brown, early tang factory drilled and tapped for tang sight (only the early ones have this) with factory filler screws, solid wood shows light handling and has a small chip in the toe of the butt stock that was put back (original wood) and a very tiny crack beginning from the upper tang back for an inch or less that goes nowhere and is hard to see, bright exc. bore, tight mech. and takedown, matching numbers, still lots of life left in this classy nearly 80 year old Winchester! $695.

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NOTES FROM THE FIELD:  (27 April 2011) CRACKED STOCKS!  Seems like an odd thing to write about, but this is something I've not seen in print before. I've observed a lot of rifles with cracks coming straight back toward the butt plate from the upper and lower tangs. Sometimes the cracks are severe enough to warrant repairs (like cross bolts etc. through the wrist or extensive gluing) and other times the stock remains pretty solid as is.  So what caused this condition in the first place?  I've hunted with all kinds of rifles in all kinds of weather and terrain and never had a gun get damaged like all these I've seen.  And I've taken some pretty bad falls too. Once, on ice I couldn't see beneath a couple inches of fresh snow, my feet went out from under me and my rifle landed a number of yards away!  Still, no cracks like these. So I've been puzzled by this for some time.  Then it hit me, since these guns all seemed like Western big game rifles- large lever actions like 1876 and 1886 Winchesters or Marlin 1881 and 1895s as well as all over while the rifles were in saddle scabbards- fairly common in icy winter conditions, especially in the mountains. Also, sometimes horses will walk so close to trees that they rub against them.  If a rifle is in a butt-forward position scabbard, the rifle can go on one side of the tree and the horse the other causing a stress cracked stock.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.  The wrists are fairly strong on most rifles and it takes a lot to crack one.  If anyone else has a different theory about this condition, I'd like to hear it!

          

 

NOTES FROM THE FIELD:  (24 OCTOBER 2011) "GUNS OF THE GREAT DEPRESSION YEARS"  When the Great Depression began with the Stock Market Crash of 1929 America was taken by surprise.  Prior to this pivotal event, in the gun industry production was high and sales were brisk.  Almost overnight sales fell off hugely.  The Winchester Handbook by George Madis shows production numbers by years of some of the major models.  This is pretty illuminating.  Here are some examples: Model 1890 .22RF had 12,367 produced in 1928 and 696 made in 1932; Model 1892 saw 64,833 produced in 1910 and 491 in 1930; Model 53 had 2,861 produced in 1925 and 30 made in 1937; Model 1894 had 29,967 made in 1927 and only1,192 made in 1934; Model 55 had 3,064 made in 1927 and 42 made in 1936. Colt, Marlin, Savage, Remington and Smith & Wesson etc. all f elt the same pressure.  With production down to a fraction of what it was, the big manufacturers had no choice but to fire employees.  Those lucky enough to be retained were the most highly skilled and experienced craftsmen.  They also had time to put extra fine fitting and finishing into each firearm.  Generally, the quality of these guns is truly exceptionally.  With production numbers of these late pre-war arms relatively small and quality without peer, their value should be assured.  Some of the scarce large frame Colt and S&W handguns- especially the target sighted versions- are almost breathtaking in their fit an  d finish.  This has been an under-appreciated niche in arms collecting/investing. It is my belief Great Depression era  arms are often "sleepers" on the antique market today and are bound to increase in value at a rapid pace making them excellent long term inv